New Hampshire accepts Venezuelan oil! Have we hit an all time bottom in this State? (Seabrook: construction, living in)

[GregW]

I completely support Venezuela’s purchase of the Citco assets in his country. IMHO the citizen’s of Venezuela own the oil under their country and should gain the benefits of pumping that oil and not having the profits created at the wellhead siphoned off to a by a foreign company. I also support president Chavez’s spending the oil money on infrastructure improvements (water, severs, electrical distribution, etc) in the country. His, and because they seem to keep reelecting him, the Venezuelans’ goal of becoming their own industrialized modern country instead of a resource colony of the United States is completely understandable even if it is contrary to our and, by extension, the world Bank and IMF policy.
I vote with my wallet and try to purchase from Citco gas stations (btw – the best coffee in town). If I used oil heat I would try to purchase from a Citco distributer. I do not see Chavez as anti-American but as anti-monopoly and anti-domination by the world’s financial power structure revolving around Wall Street’s rapacious financiers and Washington’s corrupt politicians.
So, I appreciate Chavez’s attempts to help New Hampshire’s financially stressed people with discount home heating oil. This is the work of a good neighbor and not an enemy.
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[jmatt]

Originally Posted by GregW

I completely support Venezuela’s purchase of the Citco assets in his country. IMHO the citizen’s of Venezuela own the oil under their country and should gain the benefits of pumping that oil and not having the profits created at the wellhead siphoned off to a by a foreign company. I also support president Chavez’s spending the oil money on infrastructure improvements (water, severs, electrical distribution, etc) in the country. His, and because they seem to keep reelecting him, the Venezuelans’ goal of becoming their own industrialized modern country instead of a resource colony of the United States is completely understandable even if it is contrary to our and, by extension, the world Bank and IMF policy.
I vote with my wallet and try to purchase from Citco gas stations (btw – the best coffee in town). If I used oil heat I would try to purchase from a Citco distributer. I do not see Chavez as anti-American but as anti-monopoly and anti-domination by the world’s financial power structure revolving around Wall Street’s rapacious financiers and Washington’s corrupt politicians.
So, I appreciate Chavez’s attempts to help New Hampshire’s financially stressed people with discount home heating oil. This is the work of a good neighbor and not an enemy.
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Excellent post.

[Miserable Midwest]

You've got to be kidding. People are upset about getting oil from Chavez but getting oil from Saudi Arabia is OK? Saudi Arabia who funds terrorists, treats women like garbage (they aren't even allowed to drive a car) should be a much bigger concern than the communist Chavez. I'm no big fan of communism but I'll take his oil anyday over oil from a country that breeds terrorists from the day they are born. This has been going on for years and no one has called for a boycott of gas stations that get oil from Saudi Arabia.

If Citgo doesn't get any oil from Islamic extremist countries, then I will try and buy oil from them exclusively.

Is this really better than getting oil from Chavez?

[debbiej63]

People are upset about getting oil from Chavez but getting oil from Saudi Arabia is OK? Saudi Arabia who funds terrorists, treats women like garbage (they aren't even allowed to drive a car) should be a much bigger concern than the communist Chavez.

In the same line, China who supplies many of our lower end products in the stores, also has terrible human rights. They even do "enforced" abortions in the 7th month where the baby is born alive and then killed because the mother didn't have the proper "license" to get pregnant. And then, they often sterilize her because she got pregnant illegally!

[seamusnh]

We really should encourage the world's third largest oil producing nation to increase production. This country has considerable oil reserves in wilderness areas and off its shores. Increasing the supply (or at least putting into motion the work that will increase the supply) will reduce oil prices. Longer term we need alternative energy sources and there is one state that has one reactor going and room for another one right next to it but that one was not completed due to environmental concerns.

BTW, the country is the United States (#3 in oil production) and the state is NH (Seabroook)...

[debbiej63]

This country has considerable oil reserves in wilderness areas and off its shores. Increasing the supply (or at least putting into motion the work that will increase the supply) will reduce oil prices.


Drilling for oil is dirty and directly affects the environment. We have already raped America's environment and don't need to make it worse. I would be willing to pay more for oil now if the time, money and effort is spent into making cleaner alternatives.

What we should be doing, instead of complaining, is trying to personally change our habits to be more frugal and demanding that our government stop spending money on a useless war and put it back into our own country to solve America's problems. We also need to encourage more "pure science" instead of making the companies that used to employ scientists to do that, such as GE, worry so much about the bottom line.

[seamusnh]

There are short term and long term solutions. The drilling in the US is a short term solution to a situation where we have increased demand (China, India) and reduced supply (Middle East). Longer term we need alternative energy sources but we have a dismal record of that. How long has the Cape Wind project been delayed because some elitists think it will spoil their view?

We should develop nuclear more. Technology has advanced considerably since the three mile island incident in the late 1970s. We use coal for our electricity and France uses nuclear.

As for affecting the environment, all forms of energy are going to affect the environment...

[debbiej63]

There are short term and long term solutions. The drilling in the US is a short term solution to a situation where we have increased demand (China, India) and reduced supply (Middle East). Longer term we need alternative energy sources but we have a dismal record of that. How long has the Cape Wind project been delayed because some elitists think it will spoil their view?

I agree that something as insignificant as a view should not stand in the way. I am talking about serious environmental concerns and disasters such as New Orleans. Oil is a big part of the reason New Orleans was destroyed during the hurricane. Demands for a better port, the act of the drilling itself, etc. These are things that would take a very long time to put back in order, if ever. There is enough oil presently in existing wells througout the world to last while we develop new technologies and take advantage of existing technology. Last year our #1 and #2 suppliers of oil were Mexico and Canada with whom we have stable relations. Our oil supply is not going to stop overnight or in the next 10 years. Our short term supply is fine. We don't need to start drilling overnight and create another New Orleans. New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina, and the Oil Industry (EnvironmentalChemistry.com)

We should develop nuclear more. Technology has advanced considerably since the three mile island incident in the late 1970s. We use coal for our electricity and France uses nuclear.

I agree. Nuclear is a good clean energy in it's present form. I grew up in Limerick, PA which has a nuclear plant and the only effect we have seen is that the rain sometimes goes around the town, but not enough to drastically change the environment.

As for affecting the environment, all forms of energy are going to affect the environment

That's true, but there are acceptable changes and non-acceptable changes. Wind energy has killed many birds, and yes, destroyed some of the view. But, personally, I would rather look at those windmill farms than smelling oil all day and seeing dirty machines and smokestacks. But, otherwise it is a good, clean energy source. Hydropower is also a good source, solar can be used in places like AZ. Methane from dumps are also starting to prove a good energy source. These technologies are already in place and proven. In 10 years a plant can be up and running while you take the time to drill and set up oil production during the same time frame.

[motoracer51]

Originally Posted by debbiej63

In the same line, China who supplies many of our lower end products in the stores, also has terrible human rights. They even do "enforced" abortions in the 7th month where the baby is born alive and then killed because the mother didn't have the proper "license" to get pregnant. And then, they often sterilize her because she got pregnant illegally!

Exactly. We should do business with NONE of them.

I'm always amazed at the environmental types. They preach the preservation of the planet, but then they'll go with down to Walmart and gladly spend money there. China has absolutely no regard for anything from human rights, all the way to the environment. China is the biggest problem this country faces: Venezuela being just a blip on the radar.

[charolastra00]

Because Venezuela is so much worse than Saudi Arabia? Please pass me the koolaid, guys.