New Hampshire accepts Venezuelan oil! Have we hit an all time bottom in this State? (homes, buying)

[Fishy]

Originally Posted by motoracer51

I find it intriguing that a person choosing to live in a state who's motto is "Live Free or Die", advocates doing business with a communist that deprives his citizens of many of their rights.

i freely decided to live in a state that does business with a communist that deprives his citizens of many of their rights

[rmcewan]

Originally Posted by motoracer51

Exactly. We should do business with NONE of them.

I'm always amazed at the environmental types. They preach the preservation of the planet, but then they'll go with down to Walmart and gladly spend money there. China has absolutely no regard for anything from human rights, all the way to the environment. China is the biggest problem this country faces: Venezuela being just a blip on the radar.

You have a funny view of environmental types. In my mind, they're the granola crowd who shop at expensive niche grocers and buy t-shirts made of hemp.

[rmcewan]

Originally Posted by motoracer51

Your mind is quite different from reality.

Your reality... yes.
Moderator cut: repost of deleted post
The one I responded to is still there. Your last sentence is an example of why your posts get moderated.

[RUBIES77]

Originally Posted by CometVoyager

New Hampshire accepts Venezuelan oil - Los Angeles Times

It is really sad that New Hampshire had to accept oil from this Anti American Communist Bum, Hugo Chavez.

But what is more frustrating is the fact we have enough oil in the USA to supply us for the next 200 years but our politicians have sold us out to the bad guys! Two of them being Nancy Peloci and Harry Reid! They could care less about spilling the blood of our young men and woman for Mid East oil or getting Oil from the South American Communist Thug Hugo Chavez.

What happened to our honor and self respect? This is disgusting!

I personally will scrutinize where my heating oil comes from and if I cannot get it from the source I choose I will then buy a anthracite coal stove to heat my water.

New Hampshire People! Stand up for your honor and respect and boycott all oil from Hugo Chavez!

Do you think this may have something to do with the Miss Universe Contest? Venezuela had been boycotted and was unable to enter in the Miss Universe Contest, yet, last week, I believe, it was held the Miss Universe Contest, and there it was: Miss Venezuela won. Venezuela places high emphasis on beauty pageants, I just wonder how all of this enters on the US getting their oil. Just wondering............

[dre71]

To me I dont care how cheap oil is from other countries I want american oil.I dont want to be at some countries mercy. People care more about animals and the enviroment then people. Blaming bush does nothing nancy pelosi hasnt done anything at least bush tries he`s not the best pres but he was ok . The best people for the job never get elected ,ross perot, duncan hunter, etc.

[Happy Cells]

Live Free or Dine on foreign OIL

[GregW]

On the other hand, if oil is indeed a finite resource and is getting scarce, then burning the other guy's oil first is not such a bad idea. We should be importing Arabian oil and burning it as fast as possible. When they run out we can just confiscate their recycled investments and leave them with a near monopoly on the world’s sand supply.
I am given hope by people recognizing that nuclear power, when done in a responsible manner, is not the end of the earth but is the savior of industrial civilization and keep mankind from the horrors of a pre industrial agricultural peasantry. AFAK we should put wind farms off shore and on any mountaintop and ridgeline where the wind blows sufficiently fast. We should add Unit 2 to the Seabrook Station and build new plants at the site of the Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont and Connecticut Yankee reactors. We should also encourage people to install solar heat collectors for domestic water and heat.
I could go on but most of you know the ways to collect more energy and use less. Over all we have to reserve out oil supplies for petrochemicals and transportation and switch our electrical generation from atmospheric damaging coal to nuclear.
One of the results of all these changes would be the revitalization of our domestic industry to provide the supply of windmills, solar collectors and electric vehicles. We would also create a zillion construction and heavy industrial jobs building the windmills and nuclear power plants.
I have doubts that any of this will be done so long as the coal and oil businesses have control over the Congress and the administrations. Maybe we need some realistic limitations on lobbying to reduce the corruption to an “acceptable” level.
In the meantime if you cannot afford to fill a 500 gallon oil tank at $2,500 a pop this winter look into Venezuela’s offer to help.

[motoracer51]

Originally Posted by GregW

On the other hand, if oil is indeed a finite resource and is getting scarce, then burning the other guy's oil first is not such a bad idea. We should be importing Arabian oil and burning it as fast as possible. When they run out we can just confiscate their recycled investments and leave them with a near monopoly on the world’s sand supply.
I am given hope by people recognizing that nuclear power, when done in a responsible manner, is not the end of the earth but is the savior of industrial civilization and keep mankind from the horrors of a pre industrial agricultural peasantry. AFAK we should put wind farms off shore and on any mountaintop and ridgeline where the wind blows sufficiently fast. We should add Unit 2 to the Seabrook Station and build new plants at the site of the Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont and Connecticut Yankee reactors. We should also encourage people to install solar heat collectors for domestic water and heat.
I could go on but most of you know the ways to collect more energy and use less. Over all we have to reserve out oil supplies for petrochemicals and transportation and switch our electrical generation from atmospheric damaging coal to nuclear.
One of the results of all these changes would be the revitalization of our domestic industry to provide the supply of windmills, solar collectors and electric vehicles. We would also create a zillion construction and heavy industrial jobs building the windmills and nuclear power plants.
I have doubts that any of this will be done so long as the coal and oil businesses have control over the Congress and the administrations. Maybe we need some realistic limitations on lobbying to reduce the corruption to an “acceptable” level.
In the meantime if you cannot afford to fill a 500 gallon oil tank at $2,500 a pop this winter look into Venezuela’s offer to help.

I agree that more nuclear plant will help, but all the other technologies can't even compare to fossil fuels. Even at today's prices, fossil fuels are the cheapest way to generate electricity.

And let me ask you something. What do you think we use to make all those photogenic cells, windmills, etc? What do we use to erect all this alternative ideas?

That's right, factories, machinery, and vehicles powered by good ole fossil fuels.

It's amazing so many people tout hybrids as a great alternative. I remember not too long ago the assault against batteries and how bad they are for the environment. They are one of the worst thing for the environment, next to tires. I guess as long as someone can make a statement, the hell with the planet.

[nocturnal rooster]

Is that why you guys have cheaper gas up here?

[rmcewan]

Originally Posted by motoracer51

It's amazing so many people tout hybrids as a great alternative. I remember not too long ago the assault against batteries and how bad they are for the environment. They are one of the worst thing for the environment, next to tires. I guess as long as someone can make a statement, the hell with the planet.

You mean dumping batteries on landfills which then seep acids and other toxins into rivers, etc. ?? Who does that now? You are trying to argue against new low/no emission transport by assuming we're just going to take the flat batteries out of our cars and toss them in the town dump. That doesn't make any sense at all. I mean - its not like the car is full of double-As!!! Batteries of all types are very profitable recyclables. If you're dumping your batteries, tires, oil, old electronics etc. into landfills then you're living in the last century. The batteries in a modern hybrid will likely outlast the car.

Additionally, yes - a solar panel or wind turbine made today is a product of fossil fuels. But when that starts generating, then the next one is less fossil fuel dependent and so on and so forth. Isn't that pretty obvious?