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Old 08-05-2008, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Moving
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CometVoyager - no hard feelings, thank you for posting ... the last thing I want is to create friction - the internet is hard enough to convey what you are really feeling without insulting others. No hard feelings...

Verseau - I will check that out too - and CometVoyager - I will definitely check out the coffee shops and small local grocery stores on our visit to get a better feel. Sometimes, when you move, some towns have a "label" of their dominant party...I just wanted to get a feel for it

Thank you again for everyone, and lets keep this light hearted! I'm just a "foreigner" trying to get a feel for the layout of the land I do hope that the summer is treating everyone fantastically!!!

Thank you again everyone!!!
Not to worry dzmjp! You will like New Hampshire as it is also a very civic minded state. I appreciate your kindness and recap, as it can be frustrating when posters like debbiej63 have to resort to malicious personal accusations. If they would only read the posts thoroughly and research the facts maybe they would not get so bent out of shape!
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Back in NYS
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dzmjp - Besides coffee shops and local grocery stores, you might want to check out some barber shops to get a "feel" for a town - I think it was Captjob who did that on his "scouting mission" and found it very enlightening
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Just moved to NH
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debbiej63 I never said which political party had higher crime or gang problems. If you want to make the inference that these statistics apply to a certain political party then that is your call. I never said that.

You're right, you never said which party. I "assumed" (and you know what a-s-s-u-m-e means ) that you meant democratic since the democratic party members are usually the working class and from your earlier statements against democratic politicians in other posts. Either way, whether you were referring to either republican or democratic, I think it was still an insult since it was painted with such broad strokes.

Ok. I'm done with the discussion. Just wanted to say my piece.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:10 PM
 
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You might be done Deb, but I think your assessment of "the democratic party members are usually the working class" is not accurate. The dems you are referring to are basically users of the system with a high priority on self importance and owing them a living. That's the bottom end. Then you you have the top-side dems with more money than they know what to do with, so they all attend fund raisers for the low-sides and pretend that they know what it's like to actually work for a living. Again, a feeling of self importance, that they helped their poorer, less fortunate "neighbors" (yeah, like they live on the same block). Bunch of phonies, basically, with a ton of dough. Ala John Kerry, anyone? "Oh, look at me!! I'm such a great human being! Can't you see my empathy! Well, enough of that! Lovey! Have the butler bring the Rolls around! I need to go to France for some wine!"

The working folk are the ones paying taxes, voting, and making a difference. They have more intact values, attend church, and have great pride in their country. They don't erode social values with hand-holding and pacifiers nor do they make excuses. I'm tired of people sitting on their butts and not holding themselves accountable for the things in their life. Basically all the reasons why I'm leaving Mass!!!

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Old 08-06-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Monadnock region
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yeah, but I looked at Comet's comment and thought... huh? I can't figure out what to make of it! Ok: generally speaking dems are more often 'greenies' and therefore you'd expect to have better cared for towns/lawns..... but then I think you often find more dems on the dole (not that NH has much of that) so....... I dunno. And looking the other way, reps (well, it's only a fair shorthand ) tend to be more conservative and therefore more interested in the old lifestyle and not as much disposable income (and therefore hopefully taking care of things). then again reps are often more ..frugal with money and therefore a town might have schools and other buildings not in the greatest repair because they town doesn't want to raise the taxes to spend the money.

So either way, I couldn't figure out what to make of the thought that driving around and looking at how the town was cared for and what the crime level was like would tell you a thing about whether a town was more republican or democratic by nature! So I mostly gave it up as something trying to make my head hurt.

I do think that by driving around and seeing how a town is kept up and what the crime is like is a good way to get a feel for the town - but not what it's political nature is - whcic was the original question!

Comet, are you trying to trick us???!!!!
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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There is no utopian town with perfect peace and harmony politic-wise. If anyone knows of one, let the Dog know!

Smile, and agree to disagree (the key).
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Moving
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Wink Just wanted to put out some bait

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yeah, but I looked at Comet's comment and thought... huh? I can't figure out what to make of it! Ok: generally speaking dems are more often 'greenies' and therefore you'd expect to have better cared for towns/lawns..... but then I think you often find more dems on the dole (not that NH has much of that) so....... I dunno. And looking the other way, reps (well, it's only a fair shorthand ) tend to be more conservative and therefore more interested in the old lifestyle and not as much disposable income (and therefore hopefully taking care of things). then again reps are often more ..frugal with money and therefore a town might have schools and other buildings not in the greatest repair because they town doesn't want to raise the taxes to spend the money.

So either way, I couldn't figure out what to make of the thought that driving around and looking at how the town was cared for and what the crime level was like would tell you a thing about whether a town was more republican or democratic by nature! So I mostly gave it up as something trying to make my head hurt.

I do think that by driving around and seeing how a town is kept up and what the crime is like is a good way to get a feel for the town - but not what it's political nature is - whcic was the original question!

Comet, are you trying to trick us???!!!!
Well Wanna I could never sneak one by on you!

I guess I was thinking about what type of bait to use for my up coming fishn trip.:cool : So all I said was just check out the crime statistics and you could probably tell whether you are in a democrat or republican neighborhood! I never said which one had more crime!!

And then this one poster I forget her name now got all mad and upset like I was the AntiChrist!

All I said was look at the crime statistics and you could usually tell if it is a Republican or Democrat! Is Downtown Chicago or South Central LA a Republican Neighborhood?: D
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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You might be done Deb, but I think your assessment of "the democratic party members are usually the working class is not accurate. The dems you are referring to are basically users of the system with a high priority on self importance and owing them a living. That's the bottom end. Then you you have the top-side dems with more money than they know what to do with, so they all attend fund raisers for the low-sides and pretend that they know what it's like to actually work for a living. Again, a feeling of self importance, that they helped their poorer, less fortunate "neighbors" (yeah, like they live on the same block). Bunch of phonies, basically, with a ton of dough. Ala John Kerry, anyone? "Oh, look at me!! I'm such a great human being! Can't you see my empathy! Well, enought of that! Lovey! Have the butler bring the Rolls around! I need to go to France for some wine!"

The working folk are the ones paying taxes, voting, and making a difference. They have more intact values, attend church, and have great pride in their country. They don't erode social values with hand-holding and pacifiers nor do they make excuses. I'm tired of people sitting on their butts and not holding themselves accountable for the things in their life. Basically all the reasons why I'm leaving Mass!!!



Great post- I especially love the bolded part.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:30 PM
 
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Well Wanna I could never sneak one by on you!

I guess I was thinking about what type of bait to use for my up coming fishn trip.:cool : So all I said was just check out the crime statistics and you could probably tell whether you are in a democrat or republican neighborhood! I never said which one had more crime!!

And then this one poster I forget her name now got all mad and upset like I was the AntiChrist!

All I said was look at the crime statistics and you could usually tell if it is a Republican or Democrat! Is Downtown Chicago or South Central LA a Republican Neighborhood?: D
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:41 PM
 
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Bottom line: TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WELL!!!!!!!!
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