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08-11-2008, 10:43 PM
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Positive Thinking Brings Positive Results :)
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: "FV" (most can't pronounce it)
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Originally Posted by MFWIC
Your not from these parts are you?
Locals sometimes affectionately
refer to New Hampshire as "New Hampster" and "Cow Hampshire."
Nuff Said. Now go play in the NC. thread.
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I lived in NH for over 30 years, lived there since I was ONE year old and that was only because I was born in Germany and my father was in the military! I have only been out of the state of NH for six years, but have been back to visit many times since then. So I don't understand how that can constitute not being from those parts. Never heard those 2 derogatory names that reminds me of things teenagers say before they come to appreciate life and learn life experiences.
Thanks Comet - I'm trying to get up there sooner than later 
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08-12-2008, 12:46 AM
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"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."
Suzette, this tread makes me think; 
"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore." 
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08-12-2008, 06:34 AM
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Let It Be.......
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Back in NYS
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I'm late to this thread, but I gotta throw in my 2 cents....My comments are based on the state where we used to live - NY
[quote=MFWIC;4805125]#(1) A 3-5% sales tax will raise billions for NH citizens to help lower property taxes and other state obligations such as road repairs, snow removal, education, etc.
A sales tax will NOT lower proper taxes or do much to improve roads, snow removal, etc. NYS, the last I heard had an 8%+ sales tax (although that figure may also include the county tax). It does not lower the property taxes. The taxes are still going up. Snow removal is a joke there, compared to the removal here in NH (I'm not talking about NYC - we lived in the Mid-Hudson region). NYS is in some major financial trouble even with all their taxes Paterson proposes $1 billion in cuts | PoughkeepsieJournal.com | Poughkeepsie Journal . The NYS lottery money was also supposed to help schools - I don't know how much goes to the schools, but the taxes keep increasing. How a sales tax would reduce any taxes in NH is beyond me, but perhaps I'm particularly dense these last two days, as I've seen nothing here that would support that notion. Start with 1 new tax and before long, there will be a slew of other taxes to come along, all the supposed purpose of lowering something else, but in reality, it never does.
#(2) We need to immediately install a law for manditory automobile insurance. I am tired of paying almost double in car insurance because my insurance Co. knows that there are un-insured drivers running around in NH. and if one hits me, they will never get paid. If they can't afford $500 dollars a year for insurance, then they shouldn't be on the road !
We had the opposite experience - when we moved from NY to NH, our car insurance was about $800 LESS per year, which did surprise me - I figured with the weather, and in our area, the moose, it would be higher. I'm not sure mandatory car insurance would decrease rates - I wonder if the fact it isn't mandatory may create more "competition" for those of us who want car insurance, so the rates are more reasonable. If I remember correctly, we have uninsured motorist coverage on our policy, as well.
#(3) New Hampshire needs a freaking HELMET LAW!. How many are killed from head injuries in this state each year? Here's a hint...We lead the nation in head injury deaths. And there is no reason that a father and mother need to get a phone call about their son or daughter who was a passenger on a motorcycle and was killed in an accident because she, or he didn't have to wear a helmet. It is our duty to protect lifes here in NH. even if some of them aren't that smart. (to put it nicely)
People need to take personal responsibility for their actions. If they are "Darwin Award" candidates and want to be stupid or take chances by riding a motorcycle with no helmet, it's their choice - why have another law? People who chose not to wear a helmet (whether it's a mother, father, son or daughter), make that choice. It is not our duty to protect everyone who lives in NH with a law - it is our duty to EDUCATE people (i.e. our family in the example you gave above) as to how to make smart choices, by giving them the pros and cons of things such as wearing a helmet.....As far as I know, nobody FORCES a person to get on a motorcycle without a helmet.
#(4) Cell Phone Law.....I know of at least 3 people, most of them young teens who have been creamed while driving and talking on the cell phone. You CAN NOT talk and think at the same time. And I would like to know that the car heading towards me at 65 miles an hour has an operator who is thinking about what they are doing. There must needs be a law here to stop fondling with, and talking on the phone while driving. (I am sooo tired of these cell phone zombies) Put the freakin phone down and step away from the car !
NYS has had a cell phone law for years and it has done no good. People still talk on the cell phones while driving. All it is is another law on the books with a fine attached if you get "caught". People are still driving and talking and sometimes have accidents because of it. Again, it comes down to common sense and why should common sense be regulated by a law? Again, personal responsibility and educating people (especially teens) about when to use a cell phone and when not to comes into play.
A helmet law and a cell phone law are both, IMO, not necessary. The examples used in the original post both mention teens/children. IMO, it is the responsibility of the parents, not the state, to talk to the teens/children about wearing helmets, talking on cell phones, etc. It should be the "law of the home" not a "law of the state" that if your child wants to ride a motorcycle he/she must wear a helmet and if he/she has a cell phone, it is not to be used while driving. The parent(s) would then have to enforce their law - if their child is found riding a motorcycle without a helmet, sorry, no more motorcycle riding for them....if they are found using a cell phone while driving...sorry, phone gets taken away.
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08-12-2008, 07:18 AM
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Location: Mountains of NH!
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MFWIC is a troll plain and simple.
I'm moving on to the more pleasant & informative posts elsewhere on the NH forum with my C-D friends.
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08-12-2008, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Just moved to NH
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#1 The reason for a sales tax will be to help lower property tax...We now have the highest in the nation.
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That's an out and out lie. I paid $8500 a year on a $275K house in property taxes while living in IL. Now I pay $4200 a year on a house valued at $345K.
Sales tax will NOT drop your property tax. Most of your property tax goes to the local town and county for schools, etc. Sales tax goes to the state and they don't give that money to the schools.
As I said before IL had double the property tax, 10.25% sales tax and 3% state income tax.
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08-12-2008, 07:31 AM
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Realtor® licensed in New Hampshire + Massachusetts
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Location: Southern New Hampshire
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There is nothing that I can add to this thread that hasn't been said, but I will anyway... Obviously people in this state value the personal freedoms that we have, rights that are eroding in every other state (under the guise of "progress").
This statement in particular is chilling:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFWIC
It is our duty to protect lifes here in NH. even if some of them aren't that smart. (to put it nicely)
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I'm sorry--it is NOT the government's job to protect lives here in NH or anywhere else, unless we are under attack.
We do NOT need more laws on the books to legislate common sense. We need education and personal responsibility.
Do you *really* think your car insurance would go down if it was mandatory, or that your property taxes would go down if we had a sales tax? You've been drinking the cool-aid, my friend... New Hampshire's auto insurance costs are far less than those of many states that require insurance...
I have a question for MFWIC: Are you a New Hampshire native?
If not, how long have you lived in the state for?
How long a homeowner (and hence, taxpayer)
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08-12-2008, 07:31 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Just moved to NH
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The only answer is a sales tax. Let the out of stater pay a tax for coming here and cleaning out our stores and lumber yards, and taking the stuff back home. Are we stupid or something?
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Did you ever stop to think that them coming here buying their stuff keeps the stores from closing and allows them to hire more LOCAL NH employees??????
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08-12-2008, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Just moved to NH
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08-12-2008, 09:01 AM
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3 years and counting down!!!
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: stuck in the MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFWIC
There are 3 steps to the truth.
(First Step) Rejection.
(Second Step) Attack...sometimes violently
(Third Step) Acceptance
I see we are in the second phase.
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And then there are those who are so deep in denial that they can't move on. I notice that you haven't yet given any incidences that prove your allegations, I can only assume that there are none (which is what we've all been saying). Perhaps you should move on to phase three and accept that you are wrong in these aspects.
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08-12-2008, 11:25 AM
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Location: New Hampshire
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I've been sitting in front of my comp thoroughly enjoying this thread. I want to thank all the posters (and you know who you are) for voicing your support of freedom, personal/tax payers rights and fiscal responsibility. It make me proud to know you and be your neighbor in this great "Live Free Or Die" state of ours............
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