Garbage Pickup Cost (Londonderry, Amherst: home, buy, taxes)

[maestramommy]

At the moment Dh is taking our trash to the transfer station. Our very kind neighbor across the street told us to just add our trash to her pile, but anyway Right now we're generating a lot of trash with unpacking and settling in, but later we will see if going there once a week is worth the money we'll save.

[jja100]

I like the fact that NH doesn't impose recycling (dependent on the town) like MA or CA. If you as an individual put stock into the recycling then you have the freedom to do so. Which is nice. So if I am correct... your property taxes cover garbage collection in Exeter? That is kind of nice to lump in services into the property tax where it can be tax deducted from interest etc. as opposed to paying separate companies and getting 15 bills per month and not have the deduction. I like that the NH system takes a simple and logical approach to solving issues. The more and more I read about NH the more I find out about other services that I pay for separately are covered under the property tax bill in NH.

[rmcewan]

Originally Posted by jja100

I like the fact that NH doesn't impose recycling (dependent on the town) like MA or CA. If you as an individual put stock into the recycling then you have the freedom to do so. Which is nice. So if I am correct... your property taxes cover garbage collection in Exeter? That is kind of nice to lump in services into the property tax where it can be tax deducted from interest etc. as opposed to paying separate companies and getting 15 bills per month and not have the deduction. I like that the NH system takes a simple and logical approach to solving issues. The more and more I read about NH the more I find out about other services that I pay for separately are covered under the property tax bill in NH.

Garbage collection and the method of payment are not consistent across California or NH - nor anywhere else I imagine. Typically, your municipality decides who does the collection and how it is paid for. In Los Angeles, the Department of Water & Power runs the garbage and recycling collection. Payment is on the same bill as your water and electricity. My town in NH does not provide garbage collection, but a local contractor does the job for a fixed fee and bills us direct - OR I can drop off at the transfer station in Dover. When I was in Rye, NH - we hauled our own to the transfer station. In Dover, you can drop off OR pay on a per-bag basis. Some NH towns for certain charge for disposal via your property tax bill***

You see - there is no "NH system" (or CA system). And some towns absolutely do REQUIRE recycling (Rye for instance).

*** - but be advised if it is itemized on that bill - it might not be considered a tax and therefore cannot be deducted on your Federal return.

Personally, I think recycling should be optional but carry some sort of tax incentive (rebate, deduction or allowance). Your non-recyclable waste you should pay for disposal on a weight or volume basis (as it often is). Why should someone who responsibly recycles, compacts, or simply generates less waste carry the next guy who puts out 10 bags a week?

[jja100]

I agree rmcewan. But one thing I hate is when I go to the grocery store to buy beer or soda and they "force" me to pay a crv and then when I recycle they give that money back to me.

The problem is this... out of the 3-4 recycling stations near me, I have to wait in a line all day!! There is usually 10-15 people in front of me with bags and bags of cans that they have collected for a whole entire year... I mean thousands of cans and I usually only have like 20 cans per month. BTW, I have tried numerous times per day and multiple days per week and the line is always there. I have even seen people from other poorer communities come to my community to look through our garbage cans to see if we have put any cans in there so they can make some money. I wind up just giving my cans to whomever is in line and leave without ever getting my money back. This is the BS that I hate. I am not going to wait 4 hours to recycle. So in truth this recycling, global warming BS is just a fairytale made up by the Left to collect another tax from me. Trust me, I know of better ways to help the environment without more government... my dad comes from Italy and he remembers his mother making their own soap from fat and lye, cleaning dishes with leftover pasta water (because starch cleans dirt off plates), baking bread from community ovens and using towels and hankerchiefs and cloth diapers etc and wash and reuse this way. The typical American knows nothing of what it means to truly contribute to reducing waste. That is why I despise these wacky lefties here in CA that tell me to how to conserve when they are sending their pets to dog motels and paying $5000 for a blood transfusion for their dog cause it has some sort of disease.

Sorry I get carried away sometimes

[maestramommy]

Originally Posted by jja100

The problem is this... out of the 3-4 recycling stations near me, I have to wait in a line all day!! There is usually 10-15 people in front of me with bags and bags of cans that they have collected for a whole entire year... I mean thousands of cans and I usually only have like 20 cans per month. BTW, I have tried numerous times per day and multiple days per week and the line is always there. I have even seen people from other poorer communities come to my community to look through our garbage cans to see if we have put any cans in there so they can make some money. I wind up just giving my cans to whomever is in line and leave without ever getting my money back. This is the BS that I hate. I am not going to wait 4 hours to recycle. So in truth this recycling, global warming BS is just a fairytale made up by the Left to collect another tax from me. Trust me, I know of better ways to help the environment without more government... my dad comes from Italy and he remembers his mother making their own soap from fat and lye, cleaning dishes with leftover pasta water (because starch cleans dirt off plates), baking bread from community ovens and using towels and hankerchiefs and cloth diapers etc and wash and reuse this way. The typical American knows nothing of what it means to truly contribute to reducing waste. That is why I despise these wacky lefties here in CA that tell me to how to conserve when they are sending their pets to dog motels and paying $5000 for a blood transfusion for their dog cause it has some sort of disease.

Sorry I get carried away sometimes

No, I understand the hassle of recycling in L.A. We didn't have a house, so we didn't have one of the handy cans to put all of our recycling into for pickup. We tried going to a recycling depot in the Ralph's parking lot, but it was such a PITA! Either the line was out to tomorrow, OR it was closed, OR only one of the two lines was working. Our collection just got bigger and bigger. So frustrating. Here we still have to cart it to the transfer station, but at least they have regular hours where you know someone is there, and you know where everything gets tossed.

You mentioned you were looking in Bedford. Trash pickup here is $90 a quarter.

[jja100]

$45/mo here in CA Ventura County... looks like it is 33% less in Bedford. Sweet.

[jja100]

Originally Posted by maestramommy

No, I understand the hassle of recycling in L.A. We didn't have a house, so we didn't have one of the handy cans to put all of our recycling into for pickup. We tried going to a recycling depot in the Ralph's parking lot, but it was such a PITA! Either the line was out to tomorrow, OR it was closed, OR only one of the two lines was working. Our collection just got bigger and bigger. So frustrating. Here we still have to cart it to the transfer station, but at least they have regular hours where you know someone is there, and you know where everything gets tossed.

You mentioned you were looking in Bedford. Trash pickup here is $90 a quarter.

Yeah but if you use the blue recycling cans you don't get money for recycling... cause over here in CA you have to pay the CRV tax when you purchase the beer or soda and then you get this tax back when you recycle the cans at a local station... not by putting the cans in your recycling bin. But they make it so inconvenient to recycle with having so few stations and so many people that it is virtually impossible to get your money back unless you wait in line for 4 hours + and I am not exaggerating.

[buck naked]

in Derry, we had an independent contractor - it was $28. per month, but the bills changed to quarterly paid in advance.

We started bringing our own trash to the transfer station.

In our current town, we used to have special trash bags, but that has recently been eliminated. We now have brightly colored ID stickers for the garbage bags that cost $1.50 each.

One problem, (in my favor), the stickers don't stick to the bags in cold weather. So, as you are throwing the bag away, you can hold onto the sticker and re-use it. LOL Wow! I AM cheap!!!

[WannaComeHome]

LOL Wow! I AM cheap!!

Buck, you're not cheap: you're thrifty, frugal, pennywise...



Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without obviously the stickers aren't used up

[maestramommy]

Originally Posted by jja100

Yeah but if you use the blue recycling cans you don't get money for recycling... cause over here in CA you have to pay the CRV tax when you purchase the beer or soda and then you get this tax back when you recycle the cans at a local station... not by putting the cans in your recycling bin. But they make it so inconvenient to recycle with having so few stations and so many people that it is virtually impossible to get your money back unless you wait in line for 4 hours + and I am not exaggerating.

You waited in line for 4 hours?? You're more patient than I am. We refused to wait that long even before we had kids. There's no way we could do that now. the most we did was go back a couple of times in the same morning or afternoon.

I didn't know the part about the CRV tax. But I'm one of those that really doesn't pay much attention to those little things. We used to the get the receipt for the return deposit, but didn't want to go back inside the store to get the actual refund, so we started pressing the "donate" button instead. Goodness knows what we were donating to, but it was just more time we'd have to spend that we didn't have.