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11-06-2008, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: NH Lakes
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Christopher Shays lost? That's hysterical. He's more a gun-grabbing, taxing, totalitarian government shill than Billary is.
I know the socialist, big government, totalitarian neo-cons have given Republicans a bad rap as of late and I can understand voting against that. But voting against it for the other socialist, big government, totalitarians?
Christ. I was hoping NH was a little smarter than that but I guess stupidity is a human problem not just a particular states problem.
The best part is now what little insignificant checks and balances there were the last couple of years are gone so we should be in for a non-stop whirlwind of assininity.
I would like for Washington to get itself in a deadlock situation so I could go just 2 years not having to look over my shoulder and clinch my teeth worrying how some idiotic self-righteous politician from 400 miles away is going to ruin my life.
I'm more than a little tired of fearing and/or hating my government.
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11-06-2008, 08:02 AM
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Ramos and Compean are finally home!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lakes Region, New Hampshire
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Originally Posted by sgthoskins
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Greg has repeatedly called it a republican bail out in other posts. Harry Reid yelled and threw a temper tantrum because a few conservative republicans were actually holding up this awful bailout. He cried and screamed that something needed to be done and criticised the few conservatives who dare question or hold it up. This was a bill supported by Obama and McCain. Also many people on both sides of the aisle waited until the bailout had enough votes and then voted according to what would help them politically. I watched the vote on tv and witnessed this myself
This bailout bill was a sell out by both democrats and republicans. This was real bipartisianship at work. Anyone who cannot see that is truly partisian and I guess will never see any fault in their party.
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11-06-2008, 08:29 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I see lots of faults in the Democratic Party and some of their positions. I see more with the Republicans. For what it is worth Representatives Hodes and Shay-porter (D-NH) voted against both bailout bills. Senators Gregg and Sununu (R-NH) voted for the bailout.
I am a partisan in that the Democratic party comes closer to my ideal of a compassionate polity that takes care of the lame, blind and insane as well as it takes care of the fortunate. The Republican Party has consistently taken care of their wealthy members before any consideration of our less than wealthy citizenry. Republicans shovel tons of money into absurd defense spending and wasteful and market distorting agricultural subsidies and consider providing health care an abomination of socialist extravagance.
I really do believe in “Live Free or Die...” if living free means to live free of coercive banks, rapacious financiers and hypocritical warmongers that will never carry a gun.
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11-06-2008, 08:38 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Monadnock area, NH
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Let's not forget the DEMOCRATIC reps who said Mae and Mack didn't need oversight and pushed them to lend out money to lower income high risk Americans. Sometimes the truth hurts. When you sleep with dogs you're going to end up with fleas. And if you're a Massachusetts voter it doesn't matter how many fleas Barney Frank has, you're still voting for him.
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11-06-2008, 08:43 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In a house
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I love NH & hope some day to move there. Already have land with a house on it.
I'm conservative & while most of small town NH is too there are alot of democrats. Thing is democrat dont = liberal ALL the time just as Republican doesn't mean conservative. NH. VT Maine, heck all of NE is mostly Democrat but not necessarily liberal as its commonly known.
NH's downfall will be the liberal yuppies from MA that move there & end up turning it into what they left. Thats what killed CT except it was people from NYC & its outlieing areas seeking affordable housing & relief from taxes. Then they turned us into what they left. Pretty sad.
Anyway I think its a safe bet that NH will remain mostly conservative for the near future.
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11-06-2008, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Monadnock area, NH
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You're right Tin Knocker.
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11-06-2008, 11:12 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Southern NH
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Originally Posted by Tin Knocker
NH's downfall will be the liberal yuppies from MA that move there & end up turning it into what they left.
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I disagree. Look at the town by town election results and you'll see that Obama generally carried the northern and western sections of the state an portsmouth. The middle and south of the state went more for McCain and those are the areas that have the most people from MA (I am one of them).
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11-06-2008, 11:21 AM
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Thinking - So You Don't Have To
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Madbury, New Hampshire
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Originally Posted by seamusnh
I disagree. Look at the town by town election results and you'll see that Obama generally carried the northern and western sections of the state an portsmouth. The middle and south of the state went more for McCain and those are the areas that have the most people from MA (I am one of them).
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Indeed. In another post, I've shown polling data that suggests longer-term residents (20+yrs) were more likely to go blue than those newer to the state (<10yrs). However - this doesn't mean those long-term residents are on the looney left. I firmly believe that democrats in NH are far more conservative/moderate than those in the states (actually in the cities in those states) often labasted in this forum.
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11-06-2008, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Looks like the Republicans took back close to (28 ?) seats in the state house.....expect the NH house & senate to go red in 2 years. These things go in cycles. In the 70s NH was very Democratic. The NH house in the 70s was almost even, and it had 2 dem congressmen & one US senator.
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