Workforce Housing law (Peterborough, Rindge, New Ipswich: sale, 2009, standard of living)

[lisa g]

We are getting OT but I wanted to add a couple of things: First, I have no compassion for the entitlement/blame attitude. Yes, the system makes it far easier for the rich to get richer, but it does not shut the tenaciously determined out. It is far easier to pause for a long term anger break for the rest of one's life taking the attitude that you are a defeated victim and blame blame blame, when the opportunity has been available, and the choices - regardless of how difficult compared to others - have been yours to make and nobody else's. In fact, it is exactly the society the tax and spenders strive to create, to ensure their voter base and growth of power toward absolute rule which is always corrupt. Next, to generalize that people who have worked their way into financially independent lifestyles live gluttonously irresponsible lives is naive at least and ignorant at worst. Many people I know who have attained their financial goals have done so in ways most would not consider, enduring hardships and frugality making life beyond uncomfortable for extended periods of time, getting back to their efforts after setbacks and defeats (yes, we learn from our mistakes) but never with anger.

[CometVoyager]

Originally Posted by lisa g

We are getting OT but I wanted to add a couple of things: First, I have no compassion for the entitlement/blame attitude. Yes, the system makes it far easier for the rich to get richer, but it does not shut the tenaciously determined out. It is far easier to pause for a long term anger break for the rest of one's life taking the attitude that you are a defeated victim and blame blame blame, when the opportunity has been available, and the choices - regardless of how difficult compared to others - have been yours to make and nobody else's. In fact, it is exactly the society the tax and spenders strive to create, to ensure their voter base and growth of power toward absolute rule which is always corrupt. Next, to generalize that people who have worked their way into financially independent lifestyles live gluttonously irresponsible lives is naive at least and ignorant at worst. Many people I know who have attained their financial goals have done so in ways most would not consider, enduring hardships and frugality making life beyond uncomfortable for extended periods of time, getting back to their efforts after setbacks and defeats (yes, we learn from our mistakes) but never with anger.

After the left wing communists just passed their 800 billion dollar assault on freedom bill it is obvious that freedom in our great state of New Hampshire is seriously threatened! Your right to be safe in your home is threatened, as now after this bill takes effect, mandates such as Work Force Housing will supersede your private property rights. In other words Eminent Domain Laws have been broadly expanded to encompass a Communist Ideology!

In other words the Communists have won and the only hope we have is either the next election or revolution.

[lisa g]

Which do you think will come first?

[CometVoyager]

Originally Posted by lisa g

Which do you think will come first?

Not sure, but remember Lisa G, Taxation without fair representation is what helped spark our first revolution!

If New Hampshire continues down this Anti American path then it is very possible that could happen.

[FiveHorses]

Originally Posted by lisa g

taking the attitude that you are a defeated victim and blame blame blame,

And nowhere better illustrated than in the radio ad that opens with:

"Are you drowning in credit card debit? It is not your fault."

Interestingly, they go on to say that the blame lies squarely at the feet of the credit card company/bank. They charge you things like.... interest and late payment/no payment penalties.

It is not your fault that you went out and bought things you can't afford, no - never. You're a victim.

(For the sake of my blood pressure, now I just turn the radio off or switch stations.)

[nicolem]

Originally Posted by FiveHorses

And nowhere better illustrated than in the radio ad that opens with:

"Are you drowning in credit card debit? It is not your fault."

Interestingly, they go on to say that the blame lies squarely at the feet of the credit card company/bank. They charge you things like.... interest and late payment/no payment penalties.

It is not your fault that you went out and bought things you can't afford, no - never. You're a victim.

(For the sake of my blood pressure, now I just turn the radio off or switch stations.)

I know exactly the commercial that you are talking about. For the sake of my blood pressure, I too change the channel.

We are becoming a society of "victims" and too many people refuse to work hard and do whatever is necessary-work two or three jobs- in order to provide for themselves and their family. It is a shame that so many people lack a real sense of personal responsibility and expect others-the government via taxpayers- to bail them out of their own mistakes and/or laziness.

[jmatt]

Originally Posted by CometVoyager

After the left wing communists just passed their 800 billion dollar assault on freedom bill it is obvious that freedom in our great state of New Hampshire is seriously threatened! Your right to be safe in your home is threatened, as now after this bill takes effect, mandates such as Work Force Housing will supersede your private property rights. In other words Eminent Domain Laws have been broadly expanded to encompass a Communist Ideology!

In other words the Communists have won and the only hope we have is either the next election or revolution.

You know, especially in the great state of NH, freedom isn't free, it costs folks like you and me. And if we don't all chip in, we'll never pay that bill.
Freedom isn't free, there's a hefty f*****g fee, and if you don't throw in your buck 'o five, who will?

[nicolem]

Originally Posted by jmatt

You know, especially in the great state of NH, freedom isn't free, it costs folks like you and me. And if we don't all chip in, we'll never pay that bill.Freedom isn't free, there's a hefty f*****g fee, and if you don't throw in your buck 'o five, who will?

Chipping in for what? Half of NH's proposed budget is HHS. What does that have to do with freedom? Those of us who pay taxes-pay more than enough for what taxes should be going for in NH and on the federal level-defense, roads and few other things. I don't need to pay more for those who refuse to work hard and do what it takes-two or three jobs and sacrifice. Working hard and sacrifice is laughed at today. Instead expect someone else to pay for you. Why do I need to pay more taxes for these politicians pet projects like 30 million for Nancy Pelosi to save a freakin mouse? That has ZERO to do with freedom. If people want to preserve habitats and wildlife- I am all for it but most certainly not in a so-called stimulus bill. Private donations are a wonderful thing and if people have more of their OWN $$ they are able to give more to the charity/cause/person of their choice. My favorites are animal shelters and the NH forest society. If I were able to keep more of my $$ instead of having it stolen from me to pay for non-constitutional crap, then I would be able to give them even more of MY $$.

Not everyone "chips in" There are many who "chip in " zero or very little. The rest of us "chip in" a lot more than five bucks.

I think it is time for those who don't pay anything to start "chipping in" instead of living off of those who do in fact "chip in".

We don't all subscribe to "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need".

[nhyrnut]

Originally Posted by GregW

MF seems to think that opportunity is equally available to everyone. That is one of the major conservative myths. Opportunity is very carefully rationed in this country. The offspring of the well to do have far wider career choices and opportunities associated with who they grew up with than the kids of the ‘worker’ class or the poor. Equal opportunity my ass.

I grew up in the projects But yet I earn 4 times what My parents did at my age. To say it is rich get better is just a laugh. You and what one makes is up to the person who makes the choices. That in itself would be you. To blame someone for keeping you down is a cope out. I have friends who are 2nd and 3rd generation project families. You know the only difference between them and those of us that made it is the fact we didn't blame society for our down falls we picked ourselves up and made our life work. Life is what you make it. Growing up if I said I would make close to 6 figures a year in my life and travel the country as well as a few others I would have been laughed at. But being a dyslexic I overcame hurdles and pushed myself to the limit. And you know I still push low 6 isn't good enough I want high 6 And I will get it. To blame society is wrong it is all in the risk you as a person is willing to take. If you don't take the chance don't complain or blame anyone but oneself.

[GregW]

I like the way all you conservative folks assume I am talking about myself. I am not. I am dangerously comfortable and quite self satisfied. Some would say smug. TS

My economic arguments are based on what would be good for most people and for the society. I really believe in such radical, commi, socialist, left wing ideals as "equal opportunity for all" and "Liberty and Justice for All".

I hate to see talent wasted because some kid has the bad luck to pick drunken losers as parents and, without any other example, follows them into oblivion. This is why affordable housing for the lower paid workers should be available in every town. This way the kids of the poor can learn how the kids of the wealthier behave in order to continue their prosperity. The kids can also make friends with each other and stay associated later in life.