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Unread 01-30-2009, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Southern NH
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Default Layoffs for NH state workers

Front page of the newspaper today: State worker layoffs inevitable.

So we have a govenor and a state legistlature that raised the budget by 17.5% and now they have to lay people off? This is simple incompetence. Imagine a corporation that spends money to grow by 17.5% and then finds it is not profitable so it has to lay off workers which costs more money in separation costs.... That CEO would be fired...
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Unread 01-30-2009, 08:53 AM
 
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But yet people in this state both-republicans and democrats have voted this incompetent governor in to his third term. He has a high approval rating. Why-what has he done? Other than sign in a 17.5% budget increase, sneakily sign Civil Unions in late at night (there is a backbone for ya ) and he flew around in a helicopter after all the floods. How people can have such a high opinion of this man is something that I will never understand.
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Unread 01-30-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The 17.5% budget "increase" was a bookkeeping change to put the “off the books” spending into the budget where it could be debated. The money was being spent but not debated by the Republican administrations and legislature. This is an example of how you get better, if not politically popular, government under the Democrats.

Governor Lynch used a helicopter to coordinate recovery operations as the roads were closed and it was the only practical way to accomplish the task.

Apparently not enough visitors are vacationing in NH and eating meals at restaurants, buying booze in state stores, or buying Powerball tickets. Thus the state has to layoff underpaid and poorly represented workers. I suggest he start with the privately contracted snow plow operators and State Police patrolmen. That way the population would be reminded that State workers actually provide needed services.
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Unread 01-30-2009, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Kensington NH
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sneakily sign Civil Unions in late at night (there is a backbone for ya )
IMO there's one thing he definitely got right....After all, we aren't the "Live Free or Die as long as you conform to my moral standards" State. Not allowing them flies directly in the face of our state motto. .
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Unread 01-30-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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IMO there's one thing he definitely got right....After all, we aren't the "Live Free or Die as long as you conform to my moral standards" State. Not allowing them flies directly in the face of our state motto. .
Well, I was not commenting on whether or not I agreed nor disagreed with Civil Unions-reread what I wrote and you will see that I never stated my opinion on Civil Unions. However, this governor and legislature never ran for election on it, the majority of the citizens were against it and our governor signs it into law in the middle of the night-hiding it. To me that is a man with no backbone.
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Unread 01-30-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Kensington NH
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Maybe not the middle of the night part, but signing unpopular legislation into law in spite of popular opinion (essentially risking political suicide) requires a backbone for any politician.

I think it's sad that the majority of citizens were/are against it in the first place. It speaks poorly of NH citizens......

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Well, I was not commenting on whether or not I agreed nor disagreed with Civil Unions-reread what I wrote and you will see that I never stated my opinion on Civil Unions.
Did I ever claim anything about your opinion????
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Unread 01-30-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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Is there anywhere (web site, etc) where you can see a breakout of the state budget? And I mean at a usable level of detail.

I'm very interested to see where the budget increases and cuts are occuring rather than trying to piece it together from dozens of different news reports.

As for civil unions; what two consenting adults want to do with eachother is up to them. Federal, state, and local governments should have no involvement as to who a "spouse" can be as long as it is two consenting adults (and obvious the decision to perform the marriage ceremony in a church is up to the church in question)- the freedom goes both ways.
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Unread 01-30-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Southern NH
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The 17.5% budget "increase" was a bookkeeping change to put the “off the books” spending into the budget where it could be debated. The money was being spent but not debated by the Republican administrations and legislature. This is an example of how you get better, if not politically popular, government under the Democrats.
Please ignore GregW. He has stated this same 17.5%/"off the books" allegation before but has never provided anything to back up his statement other than that a politician told him this. He has been asked to "put up or shut up" before but has never presented anything; no link to an article in a newspaper, no report from the state, nothing... Ignore him until he backs up his post with some evidence....
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Unread 01-30-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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Maybe not the middle of the night part, but signing unpopular legislation into law in spite of popular opinion (essentially risking political suicide) requires a backbone for any politician. I

I think it's sad that the majority of citizens were/are against it in the first place. It speaks poorly of NH citizens......

Did I ever claim anything about your opinion????
And that is your opinion and many agree with you and many do not. We are still a democracy or at least we are supposed to be so politicians should be listening to the majority of the voters-even if you or anyone else for that matter does not agree. Whether we like the issue or not-whatever that issue is, that is how democracy is supposed to work. But I suppose in 2009 the "will of the people" is outdated and not hip.
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Unread 01-30-2009, 11:27 AM
 
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Please ignore GregW. He has stated this same 17.5%/"off the books" allegation before but has never provided anything to back up his statement other than that a politician told him this. He has been asked to "put up or shut up" before but has never presented anything; no link to an article in a newspaper, no report from the state, nothing... Ignore him until he backs up his post with some evidence....



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