Socialism costs a lot of money. (Keene, Washington: insurance, condo, credit card) - Page 2 - City-Data Forum

fishnfool · 02-03-2009, 10:28 AM

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Following this logic, shouldn't NH residents be able to shop tax free in whatever state they shop?

Perhaps it isn't a bad precedence to set then.

The whole concept is pretty bogus and I doubt it will pass. Either way, it's just one more reason (among many) why I'm so glad to live in NH and will never move south of the border. I would laugh if it would only affect MA, but it a whole can of worms that will affect all states in multiple ways. Mass citizens can't be too upset though, after all, they did vote to keep their sales tax this last election....

fishnfool · 02-03-2009, 10:38 AM

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Pretty amazing how all these Obama appointees want you and I to pay more in taxes-yet they cannot even pay their own taxes. I guess we need to pay more for them not paying theirs.

I just hope the IRS is just as forgiving to us little people when we make such "mistakes".

seamusnh · 02-03-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW

Socialism is expensive. So is capitalism. The difference is in who gains and who loses. I prefer the former because I do not have enough wealth to be one of the latter.

Check the standard of living in capitalist countries compared to socialist and communist.

How are things going in the liberal states in the US now - Massachusetts, New York, California?

nicolem · 02-03-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by seamusnh

Check the standard of living in capitalist countries compared to socialist and communist.

How are things going in the liberal states in the US now - Massachusetts, New York, California?

All are great examples of socialism and liberalism gone wild, but California wins. It is bad enough working Americans are taxed through the roof there to pay for those who don't pay-including illegal aliens and their anchors who have no right to be here. It is bad enough that it is a huge nanny state. But the best is now hardworking tax paying Americans are having their tax refund checks held because that $$$$ is "not in the treasury". This money is overpayment of taxes by Americans who already pay too much in taxes.

I guess this is as good as an argument as any to estimate your taxes properly and not let the government hold onto any more of your money than necessary. It is bad enough they get your money interest free for a year but now they refuse to give it back?

sgthoskins · 02-03-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by seamusnh

Check the standard of living in capitalist countries compared to socialist and communist.

How are things going in the liberal states in the US now - Massachusetts, New York, California?

Don't confuse him with facts. He would rather us give him money to make his life better. Why work hard to better your quality of life when a socialist government can just legislate it?

motoracer51 · 02-03-2009, 11:23 AM

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Don't confuse him with facts. He would rather us give him money to make his life better. Why work hard to better your quality of life when a socialist government can just legislate it?

Exactly.

Elections have consequences, and many people with the same mentaility as he elected the most socialistic Pres. ever.

GotBackHome · 02-03-2009, 02:11 PM

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Yes I absolutely have a problem with this. If this gets implemented by an activist judge then I guarantee many other states around the country will follow suit. It will no longer be on cars and now tires but probably everything. Will you have to show a driver's license to buy a pack of gum to ensure that you pay the "proper" amount of sales tax?

Nicole, in some states things like this already happen. But the state has to be willing to collect the tax that belongs to the other state - if NH refuses to cooperate, Mass is kinda stuck. But to give you an idea: here in MD, if I buy a car in NH thus getting it tax-less, as soon as I register it in MD and declare that I bought it in NH (because they ask) then the 6% sales tax I avoided is automatically charged anyway. Pretty darn nervy if you ask me! And likewise if I go down to NC to buy furniture (or is it SC? I can't remember. One of those Carolinas that is big in furniture) but want it delivered to a MD address, NC will automatically charge MD's 6% tax and fork it over to them. Appalling!

So there are some states that are already doing this. I so can't wait to be a NH resident and get away from this madness.

NH voters: please hold your ground!!!!

Brave Stranger · 02-03-2009, 03:02 PM

I'm happy Judd is gone. He has drifted left over the years. I expect 2010 to be a Republican year in NH, and if former senator Sununu runs I expect him to win. NH should just ignore this ruling if the Mass courts pass it. End of story. In the 80s & 90s Califoirnia used to have something called a "source tax". This was a state tax on private pensions of California residents EVEN if they moved, or retired to another state. NH was one of the few states in the country that would not send this private pension money back to the California tax gang

Of course NH got a lot of thankful California residents out of this situation.

seamusnh · 02-03-2009, 03:47 PM

If you try to register a car in MA that you bought in the past 6 months in NH, NH will charge the sales tax. This happened to a friend of mine who was unaware of the rule. It cost him $1300 extra when he went to regsiter the car 5 months after purchase. Some MA people will register their cars in NH at their summer homes or ski condos to save on the car insurance (a lot higher in MA) or they will register a new car there for 6 months to avoid the sales tax, then switch to a MA registration....

It would be interesting if NH passed an income tax on residents that work out of state. Every day there are thousands of people that live in NH but work in MA and they pay income tax to MA yet are unable to vote in MA elections, violating the "no taxation without representation" theme.... This is a huge windfall for MA as all these workers use is a stretch of Rts 95, 93, and 3; pure profit for MA. I'd love to send my MA income tax dollars to NH instead... Let's go with 5% for NH and 0.3% to MA. That would seem about right...

BF66389 · 02-03-2009, 04:11 PM

IF this passed and was enforceable it could really hurt NH businesses along the border...they do very well largely because of the MA residents who come to shop there.

That said, if it passed...our 0% sales tax should also follow us!

I also think cars fall into a different category...When I lived in VA the tax on an automobile wasn't the full state sales tax rate, it was 3% and identified differently by the law. Likewise with boats which had a completely different tax structure.