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Old 02-13-2009, 11:36 AM
 
Location: CA
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Cutting spending on universities will have serious consequences due to direct and indirect job creation from university and student spending and knowledge-based industries that exist due to university centers. That would be the same as finding out how you could tax businesses more. You need to realize that public universities are enterprises for the state, and are one of the best investments for NH citizens.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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Thought of something else to be cut-The NH Commission on the Status of Women.

The last I checked they received about $140,000 in taxpayer $$. They refused to remove funding the last time that they made budget cuts. If we peel away the HHS budget layers like an onion I wonder how many more programs like this are receiving tax payer dollars. This one and others like it need to go.

I know they recently formed The NH Commission on the Status of Men. I am not sure if they receive $$- I do not think they do. However, if they do get $$ then pull it too.

What about the United Way or some other non-profit who receives donations from private citizens? They should be funding programs like these not tax payer dollars.

Too many of these so called advocacy groups receive tax dollars and should not.
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:37 PM
 
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Yes-I agree with you about those who are truly mentally disabled. This is a sore spot with me as going into Hannaford, Target, Shaw's etc. you see metally disabled individuals working. Seeing how hard they work and how they make ZERO excuses, only angers me more when able bodied individuals work the system.
I actually spoke with the supervisor of such an employment program at my local Hannaford as well as the leader of the program at my work (they do the office cleaning) to see how the programs are structured.

Basically- the company needing the labor "hires" a team of disabled individuals and their supervisor for a given salary...this salary then offsets the cost of their care. Generally its not a 100% offset, but it does offset the cost of the individuals care significantly.

In talking to the gentleman who usually cleans my office specifically (very disabled, but also plenty capable of holding a conversation) he told me "I like working with my friends because I can work just like everybody else".
Pretty cool.

Of course if you wanted to play another side of the card- one could also argue that there are plenty of non-disabled folks who could take their jobs instead.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:06 PM
 
Location: S. New Hampshire
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Yes-I agree with you about those who are truly mentally disabled. This is a sore spot with me as going into Hannaford, Target, Shaw's etc. you see metally disabled individuals working. Seeing how hard they work and how they make ZERO excuses, only angers me more when able bodied individuals work the system.
I totally agree with this, although I think it's fine for the mentally disabled to work if they can. I see checkers at the Hannaford that look like they retired years ago, and it hurts me to see them bagging my groceries. I feel like I should be giving them a hand because physically they look like they can barely perform the job. It's just wrong that they are in this position.

Being here such a short time I don't know about the ins and outs of HHS, but if your assessment of Healthy Kids is correct, I agree, that needs to be overhauled. It should only be for people who don't get health insurance through work and can't afford private insurance based on income.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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Cutting spending on universities will have serious consequences due to direct and indirect job creation from university and student spending and knowledge-based industries that exist due to university centers. That would be the same as finding out how you could tax businesses more. You need to realize that public universities are enterprises for the state, and are one of the best investments for NH citizens.
IMHO, the state should have no business being in the school business.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Monadnock area, NH
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IMHO, the state should have no business being in the school business.
But, but , but, but, you can't push your socialist agenda if you're not funding it.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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IMHO, the state should have no business being in the school business.
So you don't support furthering the development of knowledge level jobs and creative level jobs in this state? Education is generally a stimulative measure that leads to a more educated workforce that is generally seen as more attractive to employers. Sure, we need to look at ways to help out and grow the entreprenurial class, but education is quite important.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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IMHO, the state should have no business being in the school business.
Absolutely-I agree 100%
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:37 PM
 
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So you don't support furthering the knowledge level jobs and creative level jobs in this state? Education is generally a stimulative measure that leads to a more educated workforce that is generally seen as more attractive to employers.
What about non-publicly funded colleges and universities? They would serve the same purpose and provide stimulative measures as well.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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What about non-publicly funded colleges and universities? They would serve the same purpose and provide stimulative measures as well.
They generally serve a much smaller percentage of the total population, though.
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