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03-13-2009, 07:57 AM
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Healthy "Kids"
This is really getting out of hand. It is bad enough we have Healthy Kids-which is just a feel good name for me paying for your kid-like all other programs these tax and spenders implement. It is bad enough that parents who have access to insurance at their place of employment can pick this because it is cheaper. Now Kathy Sgambati  is saying we need to provide health insurance to those up to age 26 ! Our "beloved" governor is of course all for this. By the way, these "poor kids" can make up to 43,000 a year and only have to pay less than 200 a month for medical, dental, and prescription. If these tax and spend socialists are reelected in 2010, it will be a race to see if NH or Obama can give us Universal healthcare first.
I saw this vile woman, who unfortunately is my state senator, on WMUR saying this was for the "poor". So if you are a 20 year old kid making 43,000 you are now poor? Do I need to pay their car payments for them next? Perhaps they need a new Ipod?
BTW-I am totally against this Healthy Kids-I don't think it should exist for ANYONE but now it is expanding even more? That is what happens with nanny state tax and spenders, taxes and programs always EXPAND and GROW they never get smaller. They give it a fancy name, throw out a really sick kid so you are an evil a-hole if you are against it and then rob all of us blind. Why don't more people wake up? Or perhaps they just don't care.
I have sent an Email to Kathy to see if illegal aliens will be covered under this plan, of course I have not received an answer.
My favorite part of the article is when they act like these "kids" will be paying for everything because they are paying the "full premium" of less than 200. Unfortunately people will read that and think taxpayers aren't paying a dime. Nothing can be further from the truth-we taxpayers are subsidizing this with federal and state tax dollars and I should be content that they are throwing in less than a few hundred bucks? Sorry not going to happen.
No wonder HHS is more than half of our budget.
Here is one article on this:
Concord Monitor - Lynch urges health aid for young adults
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03-13-2009, 08:02 AM
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Democrats love to extend in to your life as much as possible. It's not their money they are throwing around. The more people they can get dependent on their social programs the more votes they will get. They've been doing this since welfare came in to existence.
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03-13-2009, 08:07 AM
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Democrats love to extend in to your life as much as possible. It's not their money they are throwing around. The more people they can get dependent on their social programs the more votes they will get. They've been doing this since welfare came in to existence.
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I know but why don't more people care? That is something that I will never understand. Are people really that dumb to not realize how much we are losing everyday? Are people that lazy and would just prefer for the rest of us to pay for them? This country has turned so far in the other direction from what it was founded on, it makes me sick.
What scares me is as soon as more than 50% of this country and state is totally dependent on "the government" then we are totally gone because those people will always vote to keep their freebies and we are at a point of no return. Too bad most people will not realize this until it is too late.
I heard on the radio that 50% of the people in this country pay no federal income tax and that is going to grow under Obama. Boy this country is screwed up.
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03-13-2009, 08:34 AM
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Why do you think Obama wants to get rid of firearms so bad?
Don't get scared yet. Obama and the democrats are doing what they do best right now, spending our money. It should wake up some of those that fell for the hope & change b.s. He lied on just about every single campaign promise he made so far. It's amazing. It will take a little more time to rile up the population because the media is in bed with him, however his popularity will continue to drop with the economy as the stimulus package will do nothing to create jobs. Temp .gov construction jobs, but nothing that is sustaining. It's going to go down as probably the biggest failure in U.S. History.
You can be scared if the currently 12-14 million illegals are given amnesty. When that happens we well be completely socialist from that point forward.
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03-13-2009, 08:45 AM
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Why do you think Obama wants to get rid of firearms so bad?
Don't get scared yet. Obama and the democrats are doing what they do best right now, spending our money. It should wake up some of those that fell for the hope & change b.s. He lied on just about every single campaign promise he made so far. It's amazing. It will take a little more time to rile up the population because the media is in bed with him, however his popularity will continue to drop with the economy as the stimulus package will do nothing to create jobs. Temp .gov construction jobs, but nothing that is sustaining. It's going to go down as probably the biggest failure in U.S. History.
You can be scared if the currently 12-14 million illegals are given amnesty. When that happens we well be completely socialist from that point forward.
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Yes-that is true about Obama and firearms. He will never ever get a hold of my guns.
I guess scared was the wrong word- I really am mad-it is just scary seeing what is happening.
I hope you are correct and people here in NH and around the country wake up and realize the mess we are in. I hope more people get involved in campaiging, calling and emailing and protesting instead of claiming they are "too busy".
Yes-amnesty of millions of illegals would in fact be the end-hopefully people make their voices heard when Obama tries to push it through-because he will try it soon.
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03-13-2009, 09:39 AM
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I'm a parent and we are an insured family through work. Never used Healthy Kids, WIC, any of that stuff. Don't expect I ever will. And for the record, I'm not a Democrat.
But I AM definitely glad that Healthy Kids exists. Without it, the epileptic child of a single mom who works full time and whose dad has managed to disappear without paying child support would be having seizures in my kids' classroom, causing quite a bit of expense to our school district in the form of a classroom aide (not to mention the classroom disruptions). With it, this child is able to be on medication to control his seizures. Without it, a mom might send her child to school when the child is sick rather than taking the child to the doctor, because they're unable to afford the doctor visit. With it, they might be able to find that the child has strep and give the child an antibiotic so they can get better sooner and lose contagion faster. Without it, the parents of the diabetic child in my kids' school whose dad just lost his job might not be able to afford insulin for their child. Vaccination wouldn't be as widespread, leading to more missed school and illnesses. The list goes on and on.
And who would suffer the most from all of this? Babies and children who have no control over the circumstances into which they were born.
I'm not a Democrat, but I am a parent. And I'm glad we have Healthy Kids.
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03-13-2009, 10:07 AM
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I'm a parent and we are an insured family through work. Never used Healthy Kids, WIC, any of that stuff. Don't expect I ever will. And for the record, I'm not a Democrat.
But I AM definitely glad that Healthy Kids exists. Without it, the epileptic child of a single mom who works full time and whose dad has managed to disappear without paying child support would be having seizures in my kids' classroom, causing quite a bit of expense to our school district in the form of a classroom aide (not to mention the classroom disruptions). With it, this child is able to be on medication to control his seizures. Without it, a mom might send her child to school when the child is sick rather than taking the child to the doctor, because they're unable to afford the doctor visit. With it, they might be able to find that the child has strep and give the child an antibiotic so they can get better sooner and lose contagion faster. Without it, the parents of the diabetic child in my kids' school whose dad just lost his job might not be able to afford insulin for their child. Vaccination wouldn't be as widespread, leading to more missed school and illnesses. The list goes on and on.
And who would suffer the most from all of this? Babies and children who have no control over the circumstances into which they were born.
I'm not a Democrat, but I am a parent. And I'm glad we have Healthy Kids.
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Then perhaps it should be a privately run charity where the funds can come from people like you, Kathy Sgambati and Gov Lynch, who support it. Health care is not a right and tax dollars should not be used for health care for anyone. Anyone who supports Healthy Kids and programs like it can take their OWN money and donate to it. The rest of us should not have to pay for things that are not provided for in the constitution. We should have bare bones state and federal government, people will keep more of their OWN money and choose what to do with it instead of having it stolen to pay for other peoples homes, health care, kids, food etc.
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03-13-2009, 10:09 AM
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I am a single parent of a 10 year old who IS on Healthy Kids and I think you're being very unfair putting everyone in the same category. Every family has different circumstances.I owned my own small business for 6 years, which failed due to the economy. I was jobless for 3 months. I simply worked small part-time jobs to keep afloat. Part-time jobs DO NOT offer insurance to my son!! I started caring for children in my home. I DID NOT take advantage of the system and apply for housing, heating assistance and everything under the sun. I ONLY applied for insurance for my son!! Heaven forbid he gets very sick and I CAN'T bring him to a Doctor because he has no insurance! I'm very thankful that programs like Healthy Kids exist. I work very hard every day. I pay my taxes every year. So, for you to throw me into this category with a bunch of people who ARE taking advantage of the system is VERY unfair and quite offensive to me.Next time, maybe you should think a little more before you type up a post like that. Everyone has a different story, different circumstances and different lives. Sometimes things happen that are beyond our control. When I can afford to buy insurance for my son, I gladly will! I don't WANT to be one of the people that you are so rudely "putting down." But for the time being, I put aside my pride for my son's sake so he can get medical care if he needs it.
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03-13-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jakiedoodle
So, for you to throw me into this category with a bunch of people who ARE taking advantage of the system is VERY unfair and quite offensive to me.Next time, maybe you should think a little more before you type up a post like that. Everyone has a different story, different circumstances and different lives. Sometimes things happen that are beyond our control. When I can afford to buy insurance for my son, I gladly will! I don't WANT to be one of the people that you are so rudely "putting down." But for the time being, I put aside my pride for my son's sake so he can get medical care if he needs it.
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I won't apologize. I am pissed off the .gov creates programs that steal my money to support people who abuse it. If you don't abuse it that's wonderful. However don't come in here and get upset because me and others who shoulder most of the tax burden are tired of it.
If you're working part time, and are on assistance I can only assume you get all of your taxes back and probably some earned income credit is sent to you as well. Wonderful. That money is coming from me and others like me. I have kids too. I sacrificed years of my life putting myself where I am today. I waited until I was 30 and had a secure career before having children. Now since I make money I get to support those who didn't do it responsibly.
If me getting pissed off that my money is being stolen from me to support your poor life choices so be it.
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03-13-2009, 10:19 AM
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I am a single parent of a 10 year old who IS on Healthy Kids and I think you're being very unfair putting everyone in the same category. Every family has different circumstances.I owned my own small business for 6 years, which failed due to the economy. I was jobless for 3 months. I simply worked small part-time jobs to keep afloat. Part-time jobs DO NOT offer insurance to my son!! I started caring for children in my home. I DID NOT take advantage of the system and apply for housing, heating assistance and everything under the sun. I ONLY applied for insurance for my son!! Heaven forbid he gets very sick and I CAN'T bring him to a Doctor because he has no insurance! I'm very thankful that programs like Healthy Kids exist. I work very hard every day. I pay my taxes every year. So, for you to throw me into this category with a bunch of people who ARE taking advantage of the system is VERY unfair and quite offensive to me.Next time, maybe you should think a little more before you type up a post like that. Everyone has a different story, different circumstances and different lives. Sometimes things happen that are beyond our control. When I can afford to buy insurance for my son, I gladly will! I don't WANT to be one of the people that you are so rudely "putting down." But for the time being, I put aside my pride for my son's sake so he can get medical care if he needs it.
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My rude post? I grew up with nothing and never took a dime of public assistance. I worked 3 jobs at one point and I am sick of people who make excuses. Sorry but calling me rude and trying to make me be the bad guy doesn't work. Many of us are sick and tired of expanding government programs that suck more and more $$ from hard working tax payers. Again, health care is not a right. We have become too much of a victim society- expecting others to pay for our mistakes and shortfalls.
If I bust my ass working hard and paying taxes and end up subsidizing others, then I have a right to be mad, angry, whatever-it is MY MONEY. If you take that as being rude, then that is your problem, not mine.
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