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Unread 04-15-2009, 02:44 PM
 
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Gosh, how interesting that all these "tea baggers" are suddenly coming out now to attack Pres. Obama. Where were they as GW grew the govt. ever bigger???
King George "W" certainly did a good job (or maybe it was Rush) of making taxes the enemy. Where do you think govt. services come from????? Cut all the taxes and where ya gonna get roads / bridges / libraries / police / fire / parks / colleges / schools / water treatment / etc. / etc. / etc.
We don;t want government "services" that's the point! And Libs always try to group everyone that doesn;t agree with them into one column -- most republicans are as corrupt and big government drunk as the Libs.

Beyond the military, the courts and general infrastructure, the Federal government has no right to infringe on our liberty (including earnings)

Most of the other things you mentioned are local issues and should be handled by local governments and elections.
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Unread 04-15-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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thankfully, NH is getting a BIG chunk of the stimulus $$$

$23M for weatherization
$60M for waster water treatment
$135M for transportation (Pike gets $20.5M of that)


at town meeting, I observed the local government in action - put off everything just in case we get some stimulus $$ to pay for the jobs we don't have the $$ to do.

without federal tax money, we'd be in sorry shape
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Unread 04-15-2009, 03:45 PM
 
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"And btw-the Lafayette square protest was in fact held-albeit smaller than they originally planned for."

chuckle....the news just reported it was moved to the 12th floor conference room of the Competitive Enterprise Institute and that is just where tens of teabaggers went....


gotta' love it!
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Unread 04-15-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Southern NH
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Unless you make more than $250K, your taxes are not going up...
Wrong. They already have. Federal taxes on tobacco products went up on 4/1 for everyone. Taxes on utilities are going up. Taxes on cell phones are going up.

As for Federal Income Taxes, I bet anything that people below $250k will pay more federal income taxes during the next 4 years....
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Unread 04-15-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Southern NH
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thankfully, NH is getting a BIG chunk of the stimulus $$$

$23M for weatherization
$60M for waster water treatment
$135M for transportation (Pike gets $20.5M of that)


at town meeting, I observed the local government in action - put off everything just in case we get some stimulus $$ to pay for the jobs we don't have the $$ to do.

without federal tax money, we'd be in sorry shape
There is no free lunch. How much will this stimulus cost us over the next few decades? In 2005, NH had sent $8,162 per capita to the Federal govt. and got back $6,386 per capita in Federal spending. We ranked 44th in the country. Only 6 states got less than we did. We may get the $218M you listed above, but if it costs us $1.28 for every $1.00 we get (as it did in 2005), then we lose....

The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005
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Unread 04-15-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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Nice to see people getting out there letting their voices be heard.
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Unread 04-15-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Monadnock area, NH
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Unless you make more than $250K, your taxes are not going up...
WOW... I never knew you were a kool aid drinker... Good to know.

I can't believe how uneducated some people are.
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Unread 04-15-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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I think buck is referring to federal income tax only...and in that case he would be correct- current proposals do not increase federal income taxes on those making under $250k.

That said- we're still so focused on discretionary expenditures. I saw a chart today that showed how the budget was spent showing the billions and billions spent on defense...oh- it was shocking already. Except that it completely ignored non-discretionary spending which takes up the majority of the federal budget. We NEED to ALL focus on medicare/medicaid; and not just blatantly cut-it (that will never get traction)- we need a smart strategy to cap its sending at a % of GDP at the very least.

Again- I'm not saying discretionary spending doesn't need to be reigned in; but there the emphasis is continually being shifted to where the big dollars are not...everywhere (regardless of political leaning) this exists. There is some weird "can't touch non-discretionary expenditures" belief...and that's not really true- they are just harder (but the effort is more worthwhile).
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Unread 04-15-2009, 10:38 PM
 
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Default To nicolem --

How was the turn out in both Dover & Manchester???
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Unread 04-16-2009, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Nashua
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I was at the Manchester rally yesterday. I went directly from work and got to the area at about 4:55 and had difficulty finding a parking space. I walked two blocks to the park and it was already full 1/2 hour before the scheduled start. There were at least 8 tents set up from different citizens groups and quite a few people brought lawn chairs. The weather was nice - not warm but not too cool. Some wore coats, some wore t-shirts. Most wore jackets.
There were a lot of home made signs along with some more nicely made ones. Charlie Sherman was the M.C. and early on talks were given by Manchester's Mayor Guinta, Jennifer Horn and Gov. Meldridge's son Tommy. I met and saw several local Nashua politicians who came up.
The crowd was very well mannered and police presence was minimal. I had to leave at 6:30 so I did not see the end but the Sun was setting and it was getting chilly.
Estimates were that there were at least 1,000 attending but it is really hard to estimate. It's like counting fish in a fishtank!
We have had the opportunity to have our voices heard. Now lets see if our "representative" government was listening.
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