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Old 06-02-2009, 09:12 AM
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Unmaintained roads wear out and fall apart. Decaying expressways are dangerous. a pothole hit a 40 mph may flatten a tire and annoy the driver. One hit at 75 can send the car into the trees or rocks. The first you can survive, the second a lot less likely.

So, if toll increases are unacceptable, how do you propose to pay for repairing the roads?
This is probably the most exhausting argument used by high tax Libs "what about fixing the roads?"

Here's an idea... take the money from someplace else. Cut programs, Cut welfare benefits, Cut government workers, Shut down government agencies, Turn off the lights. There are plenty of things the government can do to come up with the money to fix the roads.

The reason they won't is the same reason they always talk about cutting police or fire. The government goes right for the things that directly impact citizens so that they can RAISE taxes even more.

When you slam a pothole of course you want the roads fixed and may even be willing to pay for it. Don't be fooled. There is plenty of money for roads - the government just wastes it on other things.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:24 AM
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This is probably the most exhausting argument used by high tax Libs "what about fixing the roads?"

Here's an idea... take the money from someplace else. Cut programs, Cut welfare benefits, Cut government workers, Shut down government agencies, Turn off the lights. There are plenty of things the government can do to come up with the money to fix the roads.

The reason they won't is the same reason they always talk about cutting police or fire. The government goes right for the things that directly impact citizens so that they can RAISE taxes even more.

When you slam a pothole of course you want the roads fixed and may even be willing to pay for it. Don't be fooled. There is plenty of money for roads - the government just wastes it on other things.
Yup......it's the old bait & switch. Government leaves certain high use roads in disrepair and says look, we need more money to fix this ! Seen it a million times in a million different states and cites. Same old tricks.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:02 PM
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Raising tolls by 50%??? That is a LOT
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:15 PM
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Raising tolls by 50%??? That is a LOT
The pols will never say 50%. They'll say 50 cents and then point out that it costs less than a pack of gum... Of course if you commute through those tolls every workday, it will cost you another $200+ per year, but the pols do not want you to think about it that way...
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:19 PM
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The pols will never say 50%. They'll say 50 cents and then point out that it costs less than a pack of gum... Of course if you commute through those tolls every workday, it will cost you another $200+ per year, but the pols do not want you to think about it that way...
Considering the average voter has a double digit IQ it's sometimes easy to get these hikes passed.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:39 PM
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If you think everybody is lying to you, you will never recognize the truth when it is spoken. Thus there is no use in arguing with you.
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Considering the average voter has a double digit IQ it's sometimes easy to get these hikes passed.
Don't get me started...regardless of political viewpoint there are some disturbingly ignorant individuals out there on both sides of the poltical discourse.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:47 PM
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Unmaintained roads wear out and fall apart. Decaying expressways are dangerous. a pothole hit a 40 mph may flatten a tire and annoy the driver. One hit at 75 can send the car into the trees or rocks. The first you can survive, the second a lot less likely.

So, if toll increases are unacceptable, how do you propose to pay for repairing the roads?
How about using the gas taxes for the purpose for which they were intended? Maybe if you stopped spending 2/3 of the gas tax for things OTHER than roads, you wouldn't be having these little problems.

Sorry, you got a toll hike from me a year ago. No more.

Here's something that ought to make all of you folks feel real comfy. California has a population of nearly 40 million. New Hampshire's population is currently about 1.3 million, making California 30 times larger.

California's 2009-10 budget is $112 Billion. NH has just proposed a two-year budget of $11.5 Billion, or $5.75 Billion per year. IOW, kids, by doing some simple math, we find that New Hampshire has a per-capita expenditure of 50 percent GREATER than a state on the verge of bankruptcy.

It's only a matter of time, boys and girls. Don't think it can't or won't happen here.
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The pols will never say 50%. They'll say 50 cents and then point out that it costs less than a pack of gum... Of course if you commute through those tolls every workday, it will cost you another $200+ per year, but the pols do not want you to think about it that way...
$200 per year? I WISH! Last time they jacked up tolls (last year) I ended up paying an EXTRA $40/month...up to $95/month. That's why I was so geeked on the possibility of the bill "capping" tolls had a chance to pass...or not.
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