NH Political Thread. For Discussion of NH Politics. (houses, authority)

[greenmartian]

Originally Posted by buck naked

this is not a "NEW" policy. It began under republican Steve Merrill. It's a reinstatement of a rule. not a law, that was in place from 1996 through 2006.

where were your objections then?

there are no metal detectors at the state house. Lawmakers became concerned because gun toting objectors were shouting in the gallery.

There were people shouting who WEREN'T CARRYING GUNS that day as well. What's your take on that? Are you seriously suggesting that the corrupt politicians that voted in this ban in a secret committee meeting did the right thing?

The state house law enforcement should have stepped up and gone over to the entire group (armed and unarmed people) in that section that were behaving inappropriately and asked them to observe the rules of civil decorum.

No effort was apparently made to do so and the idea that asking people politely to behave themselves would have resulted in a "shootout" is ridiculous.

[greenmartian]

Originally Posted by rmcewan

Re. weapon ban in state house, I'm interested to hear people's position on the loss of 2nd amendment rights in every court room in the land....?

The state house is not a court. It is owned by the people not the politicians. The people should have every right accorded to them while in the state house including the right to keep and bear arms and to defend themselves.

The idea that our state house should be locked up tight like a court is absurd.

[buck naked]

Originally Posted by greenmartian

The state house is not a court. It is owned by the people not the politicians. The people should have every right accorded to them while in the state house including the right to keep and bear arms and to defend themselves.

The idea that our state house should be locked up tight like a court is absurd.

The former policy was withdrawn because it didn’t define the area where weapons were forbidden.


there are instances such as last March 9th when liberty activists stormed the statehouse armed with guns and bowie knives. Those people used the language of violent revolution. People that work for the legislature for $100 per year should not have to fear the protesters. Crazies are everywhere.

Do we really have to wait until someone gets killed?


of course, there is no way to enforce the rule. So workers will still be armed and so will the people.


the only alternative is to reinforce security at the statehouse, install metal detectors and note the name and address of everyone that is carrying.

[sgthoskins]

The government is supposed to fear the people, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

[buck naked]

Until now, NH Statehouse was the ONLY state capital in America which had not outlawed firearms.

[buck naked]

what reason would anyone have to carry weapons into the statehouse? other than intimidation.....

would you object to classroom teachers packing heat? how about students that have carry permits...should they be allowed to carry weapons into school?

[buck naked]

another alternative is to allow people the rights to bring weapons into the state house, for whatever reason. All the workers should be given full body armor and the taxpayers can foot the bill.

[greenmartian]

Originally Posted by buck naked

The former policy was withdrawn because it didn’t define the area where weapons were forbidden.


there are instances such as last March 9th when liberty activists stormed the statehouse armed with guns and bowie knives. Those people used the language of violent revolution. People that work for the legislature for $100 per year should not have to fear the protesters. Crazies are everywhere.

Do we really have to wait until someone gets killed?


of course, there is no way to enforce the rule. So workers will still be armed and so will the people.


the only alternative is to reinforce security at the statehouse, install metal detectors and note the name and address of everyone that is carrying.

Another attempt to smear gun owners as "crazies."

Your silliness might sell in Taxachusetts but it's not going to go over well in New Hampshire.

[sgthoskins]

Originally Posted by buck naked

what reason would anyone have to carry weapons into the statehouse? other than intimidation.....

would you object to classroom teachers packing heat? how about students that have carry permits...should they be allowed to carry weapons into school?

I think teachers should carry concealed. Since they don't students get murdered when one nut job decides to take the cowards way out.

Students (college) should carry as well. You can't get a carry permit unless you're 18.

Seriously Buck Naked you sound like the typical scared liberal, you think a piece of steel is going to jump of the table and kill babies. Don't worry Buck guys like me are the least of your concern.

[buck naked]

I'm was a soldier once and am still an avid gun user and would never give up my rights as a gun owner. However, one must choose their battles. Carrying weapons into the statehouse is not one of them.

WHY should NH have the only statehouse in the nation that allows weapons?

Another attempt to smear gun owners as "crazies."

invalid argument. When you can prove to me that crazy people don't exist, I might buy it. There are lots of reasons crimes occur using guns. Being crazy is just one of them, actually it's the #1 reason..

reasons for gun crime:


1. They are crazy (bad logic, bad rationality, stupidly, mentally illness/ lack of
their needed medication) they are on drugs (narcotics, medication, alcohol)



2. They want or need of money or other worldly things
· Hate crime *racial, religious, personal*
· They are in a gang (peer pressure, coercion)
· They are bored (the rush of committing a crime or of not being bored any more)



3. They are or were pressured into doing one (peer pressure, brainwashing/propaganda)



4. To protect yourself or someone else (someone may know something about you but you don't want it to be known so you kill)( hostage
situation) (someone puts a gun to your head or to someone else's head)



5. They are angry - transference of angry form one thing to another -(gay vote...gun ban vote)