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Old 01-10-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Nashua
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While I support the repeal of the rule allowing firearms in the State house there is another interesting bill to consider. Look up HB 1285.
This bill would allow arresting State and/or Federal agents who attempt to enforce Federal firearms laws on items made and retained within the State!
Check it out. I can see Ruger opening a factory outlet in Newport!
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Seabrook, New Hampshire
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I'm a member of NHLA (nhliberty.org), now the nation's largest bill reviewing organization. I think I know the guy who was reviewing HB 1285. nhliberty.org is also a really good site for getting a read on how your State Reps are actually voting--as opposed to how they said that they would vote.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Granby, CT sometimes NH.
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NH has always had a large number of residents that own guns. NH has also had a very low crime rate. An escalating crime rate would naturally cause more people to consider legally owning guns for protection.

Legal gun ownership does not escalate crime problems.

The root cause for most violent crimes is related to drugs, either disputes over dealing or problems related to dependency. A disproportionate number of the criminals did not complete high school and grew up in homes absent of a father, had a mother who was didn't complete school, and was exposed to open use of drugs by transient visitors into the household.

Dismantling the constitution by taking away the rights of law-abiding citizens isn't the answer to solve societies ills. Open discussions of moral decency, common courtesy along with a prevalent expectation of working hard to take care of yourself and your family while respecting the rights of others to do the same would go a long way in addressing societies ills.
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Old 01-17-2010, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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The root cause for most violent crimes is related to drugs, either disputes over dealing or problems related to dependency. A disproportionate number of the criminals did not complete high school and grew up in homes absent of a father, had a mother who was didn't complete school, and was exposed to open use of drugs by transient visitors into the household.

Dismantling the constitution by taking away the rights of law-abiding citizens isn't the answer to solve societies ills. Open discussions of moral decency, common courtesy along with a prevalent expectation of working hard to take care of yourself and your family while respecting the rights of others to do the same would go a long way in addressing societies ills.
You are right about root causes of societal ills (and about taking away the rights of law abiding citizens not solving the root cause). The entitlement/collectivists will defend problematic lifestyles however, completely disconnecting *the huge cost* created by such irresponsible choices. That is definitely not to say gov't. should tell us how to live - not at all, but gov't inevitably feels the need to empower people to make private problems public and we all end up paying for the ills of the drug addicted kid down the street whose father left long ago.

You'd think the fear of losing liberties would trigger more personal responsibility in general. Respecting the rights of others is key. It only 'takes a village' if you are fine with the village becoming an unarmed shanty town.

Lincolnian, you get points from me for specifically including 'open discussions of moral decency and common courtesy' but sadly the words moral, decent and courtesy are met with a knee jerk rejection here in New England.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Granby, CT sometimes NH.
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Okay NH. Yesterday was the day that Mass residents showed that they had enough with big government and reconnected with their colonial spirit. They made a move in the right direction.

Now it's time for NH to rekindle the spirit of independence and freedom that defines NH by send a similar message to NH's elected officials.
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:59 AM
 
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I think what we saw in MA is that people are not going to vote for someone who "assumes" that they will win an election without showing the people "why" they should win the election. While I hope that the election of Brown is a sign of a new thinking by the electorate which will result in a change in "politics as usual"- I've thought this in the past as well so I'll withhold my judgement until I see some results.

I figure we'll see the same in NH...whether or not that will change anything is TBD.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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I have a question to all of those in New Hampshire. Why does the state with a license plate that reads "Live free or die" not have medical marijuana laws enacted? In fact New Hampshire actually has quite strict marijuana laws in general, much more harsh than many other states. That doesn't sound like freedom at all, but actually sounds quite oppressive.

I don't intend to turn this into an argument about marijuana. I don't need to hear anyone's ignorant and propaganda-fed opinions about it. It has been proven to have medical benefits and many states (including your neighbor) already have laws in place to allow the public to use it safely and legally, and have for years. So why hasn't the "Live free or die" state caught on?
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:57 PM
 
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I'm going to honestly guess there just isn't as large of an interest...there are greater causes to fight against for the majority of active folks.

In reality the largest push for legalizing marijuana has come from recreational users, not the medical community- regardless of its benefits.

I would even guess that the reason it really made it to decriminalization in MA was to reduce the burden on the prison system; not as a way to increase freedoms.

These are just my guesses of course...
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Kensington NH
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It was passed by the house, vetoed by the governor.


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In reality the largest push for legalizing marijuana has come from recreational users, not the medical community- regardless of its benefits.
I agree that the largest push is from recreational users, but so what? Outlawing at all is IMO ridiculous and hypocritical, but to outlaw from terminally ill patients is nothing short of asinine.

Medical marijuana is definitely a "get your foot in the door" movement by those who want to see it legalized, and it actually has been quite successful.

As states are increasingly looking for more funds, the lure of legal, taxable marijuana is becoming more and more appealing....not only due to tax revenue but the savings on the legal/imprisonment side would be huge. With California on the verge of bankruptcy I can definitely see it heading down that route and I can't wait to see what ultimately unfolds.

I sadly doubt NH will go that route any time soon....it's just not a hot button issue for most here, in spite of it conforming to our state motto...
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Monadnock area, NH
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Time to vote out the NH socialists. Rep. Carol Shea-Porter is nothing but a lap dog for the commies in DC.
Knowing damn well that a majority of the United States does NOT want Obamacare, she will vote for it any ways.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idz8j...layer_embedded
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