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Old 07-18-2006, 10:27 AM
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Default Smoking in NH bars, restaurants, businesses?

We are seriously considering moving up there but I am very worried about 'smoking' laws. Rather than get there and be upset, I would rather know what the policy is on public smoking in restaurants. If anyone can tell me, I would appreciate it.
(about the only good thing they do here in NY is ban it everywhere!)
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We are seriously considering moving up there but I am very worried about 'smoking' laws. Rather than get there and be upset, I would rather know what the policy is on public smoking in restaurants. If anyone can tell me, I would appreciate it.
(about the only good thing they do here in NY is ban it everywhere!)
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Well, things are almost bout the same here. But, i can tell you this? It is better to atleast be able to go outside and, smoke then to be banned from the Restaurant and, the land the Business is on. A few places actually went to that extent. I emailed you on the other stuff before. Can't wait to chat soon...Have a really nice Day.
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:25 PM
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Thanks for all your feedback! I am not concerned about 'bars' really (we don't go to bars or drink alcohol really). Not a lunatic, it's just a preference. (my vice is chocolate.. )

You have been very helpful!
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:24 PM
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The broad cigarette industry is getting away with an incredible evasion of liability by the pretense of being Anti Smoking...which means Anti What the Victims Do...and by being Anti Tobacco...which is a traditionally used natural plant with no patents, lobbyists or lawyers.

Smoke from tobacco that's uncontaminated with pesticides, radiation, burn-accelerants, addiction-enhancing substances and any of over 1000 untested, often toxic/carcinogenic adulterants CANNOT possibly cause pretty much all the so-called "smoking related" illnesses.

Those who enjoy the move towards yet another prohibition ought consider that this "fresh air (in bars etc that most will never visit anyway) deal is a grievous assault on not only society but also on medicine, science and even law. It's largely about scapegoating others for the crimes and costs of the Chlorine Industry...dioxin being the most deadly element of cigarette smoke.

Google up relevant terms like "tobacco dioxin", "tobacco pesticides" "dioxin pesticides" "radiation tobacco" and even "health insurer investments in tobacco manufacturing" and...well, the discussion might change.

Despite knowing that tobacco and anything else in the world CANNOT be 100% safe, it is the case that No Studies of real or possible effects of UNCONTAMINATED tobacco have yet to appear in courts or legislatures...or even (corporate-linked) Medical Journals. Tobacco, whether we like it or not, is being Convicted Without A Trial. The tobacco pesticides etc industries prefer it that way.

See: Fauxbacco for plenty of links to independent and even US Gov't info...or Google "Bill Drake tobacco" for the 101 course on this topic. The scandalous details aren't secret...they're just ignored.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:42 PM
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The NH House just passed a smoking ban bill on May 31st. The Senate passed the bill back in February. So now it goes to Gov. Lynch. If he signs it, which is expected, the law takes effect 90 days later.

What a sad day for New Hampshire.

N.H. bans smoking in bars, restaurants - Yahoo! News (broken link)
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:38 PM
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The LIBERALS in charge at the moment are passing controlling law after law. They are telling everyone that big brother, is now in charge of what they do. Spending is up, Taxes and fees are up. We are turning into VTIf I was you I would stay clear of NH, until A true for the people government that don't tell people how to live is in place. Lynch and his crownies are doing to NH what Dean did to VT, soon no one will be able to ride a bicycle without a fee being paid, for the right to own one. They actually passed a lay that fines anyone 250 bucks if you or your child let a balloon go. Property taxes have gone up over 25% while Lynch is in control, and Spending is the highest it has ever been. Sense the Dem's have taken control in this short time it has cost every person in NH another $300 plus dollars a year in fees, and much more in taxes. With all this they are still passing laws that prevent people from running there business there own way. They give gays civil unions, but ignore all other right we have always had in NH they have turned NH into one big Nanny state with our wallets wide open for the crooks to bleed dry. Retired people have to sell there family homes because Lynch raised property taxes so much. He can't help but spend our money with the highest budget in NH history just aproved by them and they want more money now. Sad day that scumbag and his cronies took over. IMO
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:58 PM
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If I was you I would stay clear of NH, until A true for the people government that don't tell people how to live is in place.
There is no other place to go. NH is it, my friend. In most parts of the country liberty has already been tossed aside like yesterday's garbage. Even here in Arizona. Voters here approved a smoking ban which took effect May 1st. And that was done through a ballot referendum, not through the legislature, so it was pure mobacracy at its worst. Barry Goldwater must be spinning in his grave after seeing what's happened to his once-free state. Things may be going downhill in NH, but it's the last best hope for preserving liberty. Hopefully NH voters will set things right again in 2008.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:49 AM
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Yes unfortunately it is happening every where. Big government intervening and doing everything in its power to keep you from getting ahead. The welfare state only grows to help support those who won't help themselves. The middle class is taxed just enough to support itself and stay one paycheck ahead of the game, but not more as to create a rampancy of foreclosures and delinquent property tax bills. The power belongs to not so much to the rich, but the rich and influential: those that have a vested interest into who gets elected to the school board, who is your town councilmen, never mind higher levels of government and all the politicians in conjunction with powerful special interest groups and lobbyists that have sold you out.
It is a reality here in NH too. Both Hampton and Portsmouth are next to impossible to today become a successful small business owner. Too many zoning restrictions, too much corruption, too much filibustering, too much idealistic approaches spewed by the old-timers who could care less about the future of New England's economy, including NH, as more and more business and more and more young graduates migrate to the south and southwest. There is no incentive today for prospective investors and outside companies to invest in a place such as Portsmouth. The results are devastating as I witness the decay of this once proud seaport town. Now a local investor can no longer expand his brewing company into a local vast decaying swampland in the BUSINESS district of Route One because some old-timers and idealists ("build it any where, but not at my doorstep") decide to form one of these oh-so "altruistic" neighborhood alliances to circumvent the existing zoning laws and permissable land usages, which this proposal adhered to. Yes this is your America today. Petition drives do not equate to a democratic process, sorry folks! It has been New England for a while and now New Hampshire has "caught up", so to speak. The discriminatory selectivity process of what can and can not operate in New England continues to devastate this region since the close of the Industrial Revolution. It is a sad state of affairs and "Vermontizing" every small town is idealisitic, but not practical. Nor is raising taxes every single time a budget shortfall is foreseen. (Cutbacks? Never!)
And btw, I don't smoke and don't like being around smokers and the smell. But if you can't see the bigger picture and the scary reality of smoking bans in private businesses, no one can help you: you can scream til your blue in the face that you aren't a proponent of bigger government and a nanny state, but in reality, you very much are.

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