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Old 11-02-2009, 07:32 AM
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I agree with GraniteStater, it sounds like you'll have better luck business-wise in northern Michigan. My uncle recently attempted to open a hunting and fishing gear shop and it did not go well at all.
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I agree with northern Michigan which already has a high Finnish population.

From the majority of the OP's original post, ALASKA, MONTANA & IDAHO seem most ideal for him.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:00 PM
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Thanks for the replies, especially Mrtwigg's post and PM were really helpful.

Alaska especially (just like Lapland, eh?) sounds great, but as far as I know, the cost of living is *really* high over there. Also the winters might be too cold for me? But I'll surely atleast visit Alaska if I move to the U.S.

So, can any one tell me how Montana, Idaho and Michigan compare to NH?

-Gun laws. Are full autos&silencers totally banned? If not, is it hard to get a permission for the above-mentioned?

-Cars. Taxation, state of motor sports?

-More/less nature? Is the nature more similiar to Finland's nature? NH has beautiful nature, but your flora seems to be a bit different compared to ours. Are there a lot of lakes there? I've read that Michigan has quite a lot of lakes.

-State of freedom. Do people stand for liberty and constitutional rights? Do people vote freedom first? Do "carbon taxes" and other similiar crap like that get any support on those states?

-Cost of living. It was earlier mentioned that the COL is lower in Michigan. How about in Montana and Idaho? Is building a house expensive? Are there any detatched houses on rent? How big are the rents? Food? Gas?

NH seems to especially have laws which simply deny it from gradually turning into the next DDR. That is important to me. But I suppose that any rural state with more down to earth-type people has a clear picture of what the country was founded on, and why the constitution is like it is.

The high amount of finns isn't that important to me, but of course it's nice to have some "peer support".

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Old 11-02-2009, 06:25 PM
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Michigan is a jobs & high tax wasteland. 17% unemploymet in the state ! As for the UP in Michigan.......forget it. Over 300 inches of snow in the winter. It's beautiful, but too remote IMO.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:48 PM
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Hi Tatti,
The Free State Project might be something you would be interested in looking into:

A New Strategy for Freedom
Our Mission...

One star shines brighter The Free State Project is an agreement among 20,000 pro-liberty activists to move to New Hampshire, where they will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property. The success of the Project would likely entail reductions in taxation and regulation, reforms at all levels of government, to expand individual rights and free markets, and a restoration of constitutional federalism, demonstrating the benefits of liberty to the rest of the nation and the world.
New Hampshire, The Free State

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Old 11-06-2009, 06:36 AM
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Default Green card and Guns

There is a small detail that everyone seem to have forgot. Since you are not a citizen of United States you are not eligible to get a permit for a gun and much less likely to be able to have your own gun store. After a minimum of 5 years with a green card and clean background you can apply to be a citizen which will take you approx 1 year. Then you can vote and get your permit.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:12 AM
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There is a small detail that everyone seem to have forgot. Since you are not a citizen of United States you are not eligible to get a permit for a gun and much less likely to be able to have your own gun store. After a minimum of 5 years with a green card and clean background you can apply to be a citizen which will take you approx 1 year. Then you can vote and get your permit.
Hmm, ok. I suppose I should then work at my uncle's garage in Cali or run some other business untill I get my citizenship. Sucks though, that I can't go hunting or anything before I've spent 6 years in the country, but I can live with that.

Edit: "No permit is required to purchase a rifle, shotgun, or handgun.", says NRA-ILA. Or does this apply only to real citizens?

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US gun laws for non-citizens
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Michigan is a jobs & high tax wasteland. 17% unemploymet in the state ! As for the UP in Michigan.......forget it. Over 300 inches of snow in the winter. It's beautiful, but too remote IMO.
I'd think the UP in Michigan wouldn't be much different than New Hampshire. They are just small towns and such where people hunt and fish, etc.

The unemployment is mostly in and around Detroit...which is about as far as you could possibly get from the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan.


The U.P., economically speaking, if it were to have any city ties, and I'm not so sure it does, would be significantly closer to whatever large city there is in northern Wisconsin or perhaps Duluth, Minnesota.
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