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05-20-2010, 07:18 PM
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Location: S. New Hampshire
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Originally Posted by HarrisonTweed
It's that small percentage which can't quite fuse the thoughts on their own which requires an edict. And they exist in every profession. Including education.
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Sadly, I know exactly what you mean. And I speak from firsthand observation  It's just that that in my experience that small percentage is so small it usually just requires a private conversation between teacher and admin, rather than spending the time and money coming up with and printing specific guidelines.
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05-21-2010, 08:21 AM
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Location: Oceania
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Originally Posted by maestramommy
that small percentage is so small it usually just requires a private conversation between teacher and admin, rather than spending the time and money coming up with and printing specific guidelines.
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Now apply this one-on-one direct communication method to as many facets of society as possible and consider the beauty. Political correctness and regulations both increase in proportion to growth of gov't. It is truly sad to 'need' any gov't approved code of standards/ethics - when we should simply be able to talk, disagree, argue, barter, take chances and run people out of town when necessary like in pioneer days. What a wimpy society we have become that we can no longer handle things ourselves.
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05-21-2010, 11:48 AM
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Actually during pioneer days there WAS a government (town/community) code of standards/ethics that was enforced by the community in regard to student/teacher dress and other similar matters (also determined what would be "acceptable" for church, etc).
It was much simpler/more direct...but that was also a function of having a "school" be like 10 children and a "town" being 50 people.
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05-21-2010, 01:48 PM
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Location: New York
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Originally Posted by lisa g
It is truly sad to 'need' any gov't approved code of standards/ethics - when we should simply be able to talk, disagree, argue, barter, take chances and run people out of town when necessary like in pioneer days. What a wimpy society we have become that we can no longer handle things ourselves.
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How do you reconcile this view with the existence of the Mayflower Compact?
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05-21-2010, 03:08 PM
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Location: Oceania
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Well wasn't the Mayflower Compact an agreement which established rules for self-governance? The view espoused is more consistent with self governance. Apologies for reaching with the pioneer scenario, but there are some in NH schools who should be ridden out of town permanently just prior to the Bd. of Ed being abolished.
I suppose when school staff are required to dress up people will be less likely to believe they actually give elementary school students psychological surveys, using suggested answers and perceptions up front (values clarification) repeatedly until students provide the desired answer/result - those who require repeated attempts are screamed at and papers ripped up until they comply and of course without parental consent or notification.
I suppose the bottom line is I don't care if you wear a Brooks Brothers suit while brainwashing children, you are still a scumbag who should be run out of town by armed townspeople willing to take a risk and it should be made clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that you will never be welcomed back. Instead we pay people like this with our tax dollars, give them our children to experiment with and demand they dress well while doing it.
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05-21-2010, 10:35 PM
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Location: ID
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Originally Posted by sgthoskins
How about getting the .gov out of education?
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That would improve things 80% graded on the curve.
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Originally Posted by GregW
My error about Gatsas & Ginta. Neither are the brightest bulbs on the string.
I do not like ties for that very reason. They are too likely to be used as a pre installed weapon.
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Henry Ford's thug Bennet loved to use neckties to grab and control his victims. He wore a bowtie.
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Originally Posted by maestramommy
I think I get this, but as a former teacher I'm scratching my head as to why "professional dress" needs to be spelled out to adults? Shouldn't common sense tell a person what is professional yet comfortable when you're in the classroom? I've worn dresses, skirts, pants, dress shirts, blouses, and I've always looked professional, yet comfortable. Without my school admin having to spell it out.
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I agree, except common sense seems to be not so common these days.
As for flip flops, for the life of me I don't get it.
People wear them to airports, ball games, downtown, everywhere but the office I hope.
A more useless, dirty, and dangerous piece of footgear I cannot imagine.
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05-31-2010, 11:20 AM
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Teachers should dress professionally. Looking like a slob sets a bad example for the class. We have a local educational professional here who looks like a walking poster child for Slobs R Us...tuck in your shirt, I want to scream.
When I was a student teacher, we had to dress nicely. I was not being paid. Teachers make enough to look neat and clean. Flipflops belong at the beach. Short bimbo skirts on teachers? WTH? Lack of common sense has caused this to be an issue.
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05-31-2010, 02:10 PM
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Location: Northern NH
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Originally Posted by GypsySoul22
Teachers should dress professionally. Looking like a slob sets a bad example for the class. We have a local educational professional here who looks like a walking poster child for Slobs R Us...tuck in your shirt, I want to scream.
When I was a student teacher, we had to dress nicely. I was not being paid. Teachers make enough to look neat and clean. Flipflops belong at the beach. Short bimbo skirts on teachers? WTH? Lack of common sense has caused this to be an issue.
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You should give a class on how to dress! I have seen how you dress and it is amazing! I cannot believe that somebody on as tight a budget as you looks that nice  It would be a great way for you to make some money plus get those slobby teachers up to standards!!!
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