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Old 01-26-2012, 01:04 AM
 
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All the more reason to reorganize RU-Camden and RU-Newark as separate educational institutions, viz., UNJ-Camden and UNJ-Newark.
And UNJ-New Brunswick. Leave the RU name to the RU college (after bringing it back).
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Old 01-26-2012, 01:29 AM
 
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And UNJ-New Brunswick. Leave the RU name to the RU college (after bringing it back).
I'd close Livingston and simply direct Livingston students to either Camden or Newark. I'd also limit enrollment at RU and Douglass, turning both into prestigous academic institutions like University of Virginia and Wellesley College.
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Old 01-26-2012, 01:35 AM
 
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I'd close Livingston and simply direct Livingston students to either Camden or Newark. I'd also limit enrollment at RU and Douglass, turning both into prestigous academic institutions like University of Virginia and Wellesley College.
University of Virginia is a public research institute while Wellesley College is a small private liberal arts college. It can't be like both.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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As it is already, a Rutgers MBA from Camden isn't the same as the Rutgers MBA from Newark/New Brunswick. Different programs.

I'm not sure about the law programs.

At the undergrad level, Rutgers-NB is more difficult to get into than the Rutgers-Camden program.

AFAIK, it's a bigger difference than the difference in undergrad degrees (atleast the science ones) between UM College Park and UMBC.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:04 AM
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There is definitely a difference in a degree from Rutgers-Camden vs. Rutgers-New Brunswick as the two schools have different admittance criteria and even curriculum to an extent. Maybe outside the immediate area, people will just see "Rutgers", but people familiar with them will see a difference in "quality".

I really don't know what I think of the merger, I suppose in some ways it makes sense, but it would seem to drive an even further wedge between North and South Jersey. North Jersey is Rutgers, South Jersey is Rowan and as others pointed out, no one outside of the state even knows Rowan exists.

The one idea that I like that someone proposed is the formation of "UNJ or the University of New Jersey". Take; Rutgers, Rowan, UMDNJ, NJIT, College of NJ, Kean, Montclair, Jersey City, Ramapo, Thomas Edison, Stockton and William Paterson...role them all into the UNJ system. Then just rename them all UNJ-New Brunswick, UNJ-Glassboro, UNJ-Pomona, etc. Or, you could keep the old school names to let them still have some recognition; UNJ-Rutgers, UNJ-Livingston, UNJ-Rowan, UNJ-Stockton, etc.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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but it would seem to drive an even further wedge between North and South Jersey..
They should just go all the way and separate SJ into its own state or it merges with Delaware to keep it at 50 US. The Delaware capital could be Wilmington to be more central for existing DE and SJ. SJ is anyways distinctly tied to Philadelphia, while the rest of the state with New York. Atleast we might get lower taxes that way.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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There is definitely a difference in a degree from Rutgers-Camden vs. Rutgers-New Brunswick as the two schools have different admittance criteria and even curriculum to an extent. Maybe outside the immediate area, people will just see "Rutgers", but people familiar with them will see a difference in "quality".

I really don't know what I think of the merger, I suppose in some ways it makes sense, but it would seem to drive an even further wedge between North and South Jersey. North Jersey is Rutgers, South Jersey is Rowan and as others pointed out, no one outside of the state even knows Rowan exists.

The one idea that I like that someone proposed is the formation of "UNJ or the University of New Jersey". Take; Rutgers, Rowan, UMDNJ, NJIT, College of NJ, Kean, Montclair, Jersey City, Ramapo, Thomas Edison, Stockton and William Paterson...role them all into the UNJ system. Then just rename them all UNJ-New Brunswick, UNJ-Glassboro, UNJ-Pomona, etc. Or, you could keep the old school names to let them still have some recognition; UNJ-Rutgers, UNJ-Livingston, UNJ-Rowan, UNJ-Stockton, etc.
It's another wedge, definitely.

Outside of NJ no one sees a difference between campuses of Rutgers. It's like I said about various campuses of the UNC system. Leave the state & there is no difference. On the other hand, Rowan has zero name recognition out of state. Glassboro State had name recognition because of the Hollybush Summit.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:13 PM
 
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True, but Rowan has made huge strides over the past few years. Every university's reputation takes a while to build, after all. It is already taking a huge step this year by taking over Cooper University Hospital.

The only way to really figure this out is to compare what type and quality of jobs RU-Camden grads get versus New Brunswick grads, versus graduates of non-RU state schools like Montclair.

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Old 01-26-2012, 12:18 PM
 
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As it is already, a Rutgers MBA from Camden isn't the same as the Rutgers MBA from Newark/New Brunswick. Different programs.

I'm not sure about the law programs.

At the undergrad level, Rutgers-NB is more difficult to get into than the Rutgers-Camden program.

AFAIK, it's a bigger difference than the difference in undergrad degrees (atleast the science ones) between UM College Park and UMBC.
Kind of off-topic, but UMD and UMBC are completely separate universities within the University System of Maryland. This is the model I was thinking of earlier when I hypothesized about creating a strong partnership between three universities, one each for North, Central, and South Jersey.
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Old 01-26-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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My brother goes to Rutgers-Camden and he is not happy about it.
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