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Old 05-25-2013, 07:33 PM
 
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yeah, haddonfield and collingswood are turning into little camden. lol
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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So then why is this line so expensive if all that can be done for the same price?
Who knows , LRT lines tend to be 4x the cost in North America compared to Europe or Asia.
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Old 05-26-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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it could be unions and debt services. Or it could be part of a 30 year contract like the Riverline, which cost a billion but came with maintenance, debt services, and buying a rail line.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Imagine the flow-out from Camden and into Glassboro
Huh? Where are you going with this comment?

If you're talking about people moving out of Camden, they have been moving to Deptford for quite a while. If you think that they are going to ride the line to do breakins, well, why hasn't that been happening on the main PATCO line, since 1969.
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Huh? Where are you going with this comment?

If you're talking about people moving out of Camden, they have been moving to Deptford for quite a while. If you think that they are going to ride the line to do breakins, well, why hasn't that been happening on the main PATCO line, since 1969.
It wouldn't make much sense for a robber to break in someone's house and carry all those stolen items to a train station and then wait an hour or so for the next train to arrive without anyone being suspicious of them.

A person doing a home break-in would most likely have a car for an easy getaway instead of waiting for a train that can have delays.
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Imagine the flow-out from Camden and into Glassboro
There are already bus routes that go from Camden to Glassboro. Should New Jersey Transit just eliminate those routes for your convenience?

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Old 05-26-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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It wouldn't make much sense for a robber to break in someone's house and carry all those stolen items to a train station and then wait an hour or so for the next train to arrive without anyone being suspicious of them.

A person doing a home break-in would most likely have a car for an easy getaway instead of waiting for a train that can have delays.
Precisely. However, when you look at Glassboro's demographics, I have a pretty good idea where the poster was going with that, & it wasn't Glassboro.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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It wouldn't make much sense for a robber to break in someone's house and carry all those stolen items to a train station and then wait an hour or so for the next train to arrive without anyone being suspicious of them.

A person doing a home break-in would most likely have a car for an easy getaway instead of waiting for a train that can have delays.
NJ Transit to install surveillance cameras on River Line - phillyburbs.com: Burlington County Times

Not apples and oranges:

"The agency received a $700,000 federal grant earlier this year, and plans to use the money to install surveillance cameras on most or all of the 20 cars used on the light rail system, said spokesman John Durso, Jr.
“From a local standpoint, (the train) has created quality of life and crime issues for municipalities along the River Line,” Pearlman said. “It’s an inexpensive way for people from Camden and Trenton to hit the towns in between. Any surveillance cameras, whether it’s on light rail or a private home, is a help for us.”


ps: Regarding the proposed Glassboro-Camden light rail: "the DRPA is taking on the role of “project manager,” according to the authority."
Residents weigh in on Glassboro-Camden light rail line | NJ.com
Now that's reassuring

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Old 05-28-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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NJ Transit to install surveillance cameras on River Line - phillyburbs.com: Burlington County Times

Not apples and oranges:

"The agency received a $700,000 federal grant earlier this year, and plans to use the money to install surveillance cameras on most or all of the 20 cars used on the light rail system, said spokesman John Durso, Jr.
“From a local standpoint, (the train) has created quality of life and crime issues for municipalities along the River Line,” Pearlman said. “It’s an inexpensive way for people from Camden and Trenton to hit the towns in between. Any surveillance cameras, whether it’s on light rail or a private home, is a help for us.”
Locals have told me otherwise with the crime , there was already a overcapacity bus line servicing the same areas before the Railway opened so crime didn't explode like some fear mongers have said. It has been used as an election tool down their with bad results , people don't like politicians who skew the numbers...to fit their agenda. The RiverLine is one of the last lines in the Northeast to receive Cameras at every station...its mainly due to 9/11 security type fears rather then crime...
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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I will reiterate what Nexis is saying. The opposition to the RiverLine before it was approved was all predicated on "crime seepage". From what I understand, there has been no actual impact in terms of crime from the RiverLine, but people still use that as a way to scare people to vote or oppose something. Unless someone can prove it statistically, then I can't accept that the RiverLine has increased crime. Let's be realistic, if someone wants to rob you, they are going to do it. The one thing I have heard is anecdotal evidence of dealers using the train to move drugs, but they have long used the NJT busses for that anyway.
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