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Old 02-14-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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I'd also throw in most of Ocean County, as much of it is south or directly east of Philadelphia (and even a small portion below the Mason-Dixon line!) Beach Haven is on the same latitude as Westminster, MD. I'd draw the line from Seaside Heights to Toms River to Fort Dix to Bordentown (just past exit 7 heading north on the Turnpike). I'm still surprised that there isn't an expressway between around Exit 4 of the Turnpike and out to around exit 63 of the Parkway in Stafford Township. Sure, development would be restricted due to the Pine Barrens it would go through, but it could provide better access towards visiting it and bridge the gap between the A.C. Expressway and 195 for those heading to the shore. This corridor would solidly be in the northern portion of South Jersey. South Jersey is quite diverse with over half of the shore, rural areas and farm towns near the Delaware Bay, the Philly suburbs, and the Pine Barrens, just like how North Jersey has the urban/suburban/exurban rings distinct from Manhattan and the rural far Northwest with Appalachian foothills and farms and some lakes.
Agreed. Anything south of Toms River and Seaside Heights is South Jersey. Central starts there. On the west side, Central starts with either Bordentown or Florence.

I don’t think it’s necessary to create an expressway to LBI. People just take 70 to 72, and it’s only about 10 minutes longer than going to AC.
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Agreed. Anything south of Toms River and Seaside Heights is South Jersey. Central starts there. On the west side, Central starts with either Bordentown or Florence.

I don’t think it’s necessary to create an expressway to LBI. People just take 70 to 72, and it’s only about 10 minutes longer than going to AC.
Interestingly, there was a plan in the 1960's for an interstate from Bristol, PA to Burlington, NJ which would connect to an extended Rt 72. It was cancelled in the 1970's due to opposition from local residents and funding issues. While not an expressway the entire way through, it would have connected PA, Rt 295, and the NJ turnpike to Rt 72 with a direct path. Wikipedia Source for I-895
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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basically the divide is Giants/Eagles and Yanks/Phils


on the above I grew up in bucks county PA and LBI, Belmar etc are a shorter than S Jersey beaches yet most went south
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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Ocean County is North Jersey to me. Seaside Heights is definitely North Jersey. Toms Rivers, etc... nothing South Jersey about all that. It's not just a matter of latitude. Ocean County is separated from South Jersey, and is more NY influenced.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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Agreed. Anything south of Toms River and Seaside Heights is South Jersey. Central starts there. On the west side, Central starts with either Bordentown or Florence.

I don’t think it’s necessary to create an expressway to LBI. People just take 70 to 72, and it’s only about 10 minutes longer than going to AC.
A long time ago, when the earth was green, Ocean County was in Southern New Jersey. That was in the 1950's and most of the 1960's. People who have lived there for a long time considered themselves Southern New Jerseyans. Invasion and TV programming doesn't change geography. Ocean County is still in Southern New Jersey.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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I call it anything south of I-195 Deep South is below Rt. 70
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:34 PM
 
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A long time ago, when the earth was green, Ocean County was in Southern New Jersey. That was in the 1950's and most of the 1960's. People who have lived there for a long time considered themselves Southern New Jerseyans. Invasion and TV programming doesn't change geography. Ocean County is still in Southern New Jersey.
I know we’ve had this discussion before, but I think people use the North/Central/South designation as much as a cultural boundary indicator than as a strictly geographic one, so “invasion” can change that.

It’s akin to what people consider Upstate New York. It’s not defined as the upper half of the state. It’s defined as what is outside of the NYC sphere of influence, and that starts WAY below the geographic north-south Center.

Geographically speaking, land wise, I still consider the majority of Ocean County South Jersey. But not the entire county.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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When ever referring to NJ, I often explain it that North Jersey is associated with Newark area and over to the Atlantic Ocean and then Central Jersey is considered Trenton over to the ocean and South Jersey is considered right over Philly bridges to the Ocean.

I am from Cherry Hill (which is considered South Jersey) and traveled for work quite a bit and when I would explained to people where I live, I would always say "Right outside of Philadelphia" and they would associated it with South Jersey.
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