Possibly relocating to Camden- where do we live? (sale, deductible)

[subwayfan]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

just move to the surrounding areas and not IN Camden and you will be okay.. Try to stay in Burlington county and your home owners insurance and car insurance will be lower then in Camden county. If you want to be close to Camden but in Burlington county you may want to look at Maple Shade. Great place..

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Evesham township is closeby also. A choice would be south of 73, or before the Marlton circle - like in the homes behind Staples on Cropwell Rd, where its easy to get to PATCO Woodcrest Station from Rt.70 to I-295.

[GoPhils]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

When did you become the official spokesman for "GoPhils" ?

He's right, we already talked about them. The college and waterfront area for the most part are OK, and wherever that article depicted the Rutgers professors living looked okay as well, although I'm not exactly sure where that was. And I think someone even posted on here that they lived in an area of Camden that wasn't that bad either. No, there might not be that many parts of Camden that aren't that bad, but as I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, that is partly because Camden is a pretty small city.

For the person trash-talking Rutgers-Camden, have you been to any other colleges? A lot of colleges border cities and "ghettos," it's not just Rutgers-Camden. Look right across the river for an example, Temple is in the heart of North Philly. Yes, Camden as a city is worse than a lot of other cities, but the crime on and directly adjacent to the campus probably isn't as bad, although that is probably partly due to the fact that Rutgers-Camden is largely a commuter school. Criminals like to pick on drunk college students, so the fact that there aren't that many at Rutgers-Camden definitely helps.

Nevertheless, I think most people suggested to the OP that it might not be the best decision to live in Camden and there are probably better options in the area, but Rutgers-Camden is still a good and relatively safe school, and if she did decide to move to Camden, then it might not be the worst decision she ever made. The lofts on the waterfront did get people to move in, so yes, there are some successful people living in Camden.

[subwayfan]

Camden's 2 luxury loft buildings are only rentals right? I think it wouldn't be too bad for those that study at Rutgers Camden or work around that immediate waterfront area, and work in Philadelphia also, where the need is to near both cities, possibly but preferring the luxury of keeping a car (in the secure apartment complex, where rent and keeping a car is considerably cheaper) and paying less city wage tax to Philly.

But then nightlife would suck...one is dependent on PATCO, and safety is at night in Camden even walking from PATCO to the apartment is questionable.

Though small in number compared to commuters into Philly, I see a number of reverse commuters in the morning: taking PATCO eastbound from 8th&Market into Camden.

[GoPhils]

Originally Posted by subwayfan

Camden's 2 luxury loft buildings are only rentals right? I think it wouldn't be too bad for those that study at Rutgers Camden or work around that immediate waterfront area, and work in Philadelphia also, where the need is to near both cities, possibly but preferring the luxury of keeping a car (in the secure apartment complex, where rent and keeping a car is considerably cheaper) and paying less city wage tax to Philly.

But then nightlife would suck...one is dependent on PATCO, and safety is at night in Camden even walking from PATCO to the apartment is questionable.

I'm not exactly sure how much the lofts cost, but I think they might be a little expensive for students.

The nightlife point is a decent one, hopefully it wouldn't be too bad to get into Philly from there. But they do have the Victor's Pub on the first floor of the lofts which is pretty nice and would be a decent option that you wouldn't even have to travel to.

[subwayfan]

Originally Posted by GoPhils

I'm not exactly sure how much the lofts cost, but I think they might be a little expensive for students.

The nightlife point is a decent one, hopefully it wouldn't be too bad to get into Philly from there. But they do have the Victor's Pub on the first floor of the lofts which is pretty nice and would be a decent option that you wouldn't even have to travel to.

Grad students I meant. I think Rutgers has a few grad programs: law and mba come to mind. One negative is that even if one chooses luxury loft living in Camden over Philadelhpia to may save money being the cheapskate, that person would have it harder hosting friends as easily. Less likely for a group of ppl from Philly to want to visit the sole friend in Camden if all are in Philly, and all the restaurants and bars are in Philly.

[Katisu]

We're pretty boring as far as night life. In a given three month period we may go out to eat a few times and maybe to a bar once. We're like a little 90 year-old couple. And I'm sure Husband won't have much free time that often. Of course that makes for a really boring life for me when I can't hang out with him, so maybe I will want to go out once in a while.

Someone mentioned taxes. How do taxes work if you're employed in philly and live in new jersey? I've never worked in a state and lived in another.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by ScranBarre

What a very nasty thing to say to someone! How do you know why this man's family left him? Perhaps his wife was a cocaine addict, started tripping, and swooped up her kids and fled to Florida on a whim. Perhaps his was was being unfaithful to him, and he kicked her out on her derriere. Perhaps his wife wanted to explore her bisexual side and is now living with her new girlfriend, Olga, in Florida. Perhaps his wife thought FL would have been a better environment in which their children should be raised, and FlyersFan needed to tie up some loose ends first in NJ before following them down.

As someone who has also been terribly lonesome and depressed for quite some time on being unable to attract a mate to myself in this back-water place for dating they call Scranton may I remind you that it is in very poor taste to rub your romantic successes into the face of others who have not been so blessed in life? I don't think FlyersFan is all that bad looking at all (even though I'm tiring of guys his age hitting on me, but I digress), and the fact that his pampered pooch seems to be pretty happy beside him indicates to me that he does indeed have SOME good qualities.

While I agree with you that it's not fair that a number of short-sighted fools on the NJ forum will b*tch about having to "subsidize Camden" while then turning around and trying to FURTHER its demise by driving away prospective middle-class investors and entrepreneurs that COULD help it to thrive in the long-term, your comments are way out-of-line, and you ought to apologize for such insensitive remarks.

Thank you for your kind words and support. For the record....yes my X did leave after 30 years of marriage......but she left everything behind and wanted no responsibility for anything including the children.....therefore I became the custodial parent and was a true Mr. Mom raising our daughters for 10 years alone.......only recently did my youngest move to Florida with her husband to start a teaching career.......however, not to escape me as Mr. DailyJournalist indicates....she and her husband didn't wish to start their lives together in this tax ridden state where no matter how much a young couple saves you just can't get ahead .....after two years she still calls me everyday on her way home from school and I visit for a week about every 2 months. In a year or so I will move down there too and the plan is to get involved in a family business when my son-in-law completes his journeymans time and sits for his electricians license. While Mr. DailyJournalist and I differ on our views on New Jersey Vs Florida and Camden lately he has grown tired of taking issue with me personally and started attacking my children and personal appearance too. I know I'm not Brad Pitt but I'm not Barney Fife either. The dog with the smile in my picture is a "rescued" dog from a local animal shelter last May that was sick and grossly underweigth that was "surrendered" from a house in Camden. After months of daily treatment, medication and many dollars spent she is pretty much back to normal but still suffers from a "sensitive" stomach at times.....but has a happy life.

The bottom line on this thread is that its just not safe for a young, inexperienced, niave couple living and traveling about in Camden.....arguing to the contrary that they would be safe there just seems silly.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by Katisu

We're pretty boring as far as night life. In a given three month period we may go out to eat a few times and maybe to a bar once. We're like a little 90 year-old couple. And I'm sure Husband won't have much free time that often. Of course that makes for a really boring life for me when I can't hang out with him, so maybe I will want to go out once in a while.

Someone mentioned taxes. How do taxes work if you're employed in philly and live in new jersey? I've never worked in a state and lived in another.

You would pay your federal income tax, the New Jersey personal income tax and the Philadelphia wage tax too.......the highest wage tax of all 50 states. I'm not sure but I think it was approaching 5%.

[Katisu]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

You would pay your federal income tax, the New Jersey personal income tax and the Philadelphia wage tax too.......the highest wage tax of all 50 states. I'm not sure but I think it was approaching 5%.

So you have to pay income tax in one and "wage tax" in the other. I don't think I like that. It seems excessive; I would only be earning wages in one state.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by Katisu

So you have to pay income tax in one and "wage tax" in the other. I don't think I like that. It seems excessive; I would only be earning wages in one state.

Well.....I don't think anyone likes it but its a fact of living in New Jersey and working in Philadelphia. As I've pointed out before in this thread New Jersey has 13 of the top 20 counties in the United States for heaviest tax burden per resident and I doubt that survey takes into account those who live in NJ and work in Pennsylvania.....that only makes the tax burden worse.