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Originally Posted by njkate
I was down there last September..it's a dive. I'm not a gambler but hubbie wanted to go and I killed two birds as my brother was getting treatments at Cancer Center in Philly so while hubbie gambled I went over to Philly....
Took a late night stroll on boardwalk before going up to room....the place is a 100% DIVE...what I saw on the boardwalk made my hair stand up.....creepy
Guess if you're not going to venture outside from casino you're ok
The competition is good maybe now they will sit up & take notice...
But there's been competition for years in Delaware, at their race tracks. That's why horse racing in South Jersey is no longer viable. Trenton chose to ignore it.
The AC casinos have run cheap bus trips to AC for decades out of Philly. When Fast Eddie was mayor, he tried to get riverboat gambling to counter it. When Harrisburg told him no for the umpteenth time, he announced that he's run for governor & get gambling for Philly.
Trenton ignored it when PA opened slots parlors. They'll probably continue to ignore this. There's something to be said for consistency.
Wow, someone was carjacked, kidnapped and murdered all in the same garage?? I don't get how you'd take someone's car from them, but kidnap them at the same time (wouldn't they have to be in the car with you to kidnap them?), but then murder them before you even leave the garage. That sounds like some weird quantum mechanical fluctuations would have to be involved or something.
Your ignorant sarcasm is noted. This was a man who came to A.C. to celebrate his daughter's 22nd birthday and never made it out of the garage. Yes, he WAS carjacked and kidnapped (by two "people") and had his wallet snatched in the garage. He was then shoved into one of the carjackers' vehicles while the other carjacker drove away in his car. If it makes you feel any better, his brutal murder occurred about 20 minutes later before his body was thrown in a ditch.
Clear enough for you or do you want to make more smarmy jokes?
It happened in May, by the way. I suppose you don't read newspapers or you would have heard about it.
Today was the first day of table games in PA casinos, and they are very brazenly targeting NJ customers.
I wonder how (if?) AC will counter this, and if our government will do anything about it. Based on what I see so far, the governor will do nothing about it and the state legislators will play their stubborn games so nothing gets done .
I don't want my government trying to figure out the business strategies for corporations. The casinos are big boys. Let's let them make their own business choices and hope the government stays on the sidelines until asked.
Wow, someone was carjacked, kidnapped and murdered all in the same garage?? I don't get how you'd take someone's car from them, but kidnap them at the same time (wouldn't they have to be in the car with you to kidnap them?), but then murder them before you even leave the garage. That sounds like some weird quantum mechanical fluctuations would have to be involved or something.
I believe they also too killed him and drownded him and strangulated him also in addition.
I'm not sure I get your post. Why should the government do something about PA targeting NJ customers? Are you referring to the idea that they should make gambling legal in more of the state, so that we're "fighting" it by being more competitive, or something else?
Yes, one of the things hindering NJ from competing is the politics. They should legalize the slots in the Meadowlands and Sports Book in AC.
Beyond that, AC will have to compete by lowering minimums or offering other premiums, but I think they will figure that out and the government can't do anything to help them there.
Tell that to the family of the gentleman who was recent carjacked, kidnapped, robbed and murdered in the Trump Plaza garage.
And, no the hookers and drug dealers aren't propositioning grannies inside the casinos, but that's beside the point. What matters is attracting people to come to Atlantic City. For years, A.C. was the only game in town, so people came there despite how horrible the city was/is. Now that other cities are offering table games, there's no real reason to go there for a lot of people. To keep people coming back, the city has to be cleaned up so it can be a real destination beyond what people can now get in a whole bunch of other places closer to home.
This kind of thing can (and does) happen anywhere. You ought to know that Vegas has a lot of this type of crime, amongst others:
I'll even give you that AC is worse, but bad is bad, and crime is crime. It's everywhere. I've been to Vegas and AC many, many times and never been murdered, robbed, carjacked, slain, drownded, or strangulated. AC is fine if you go to the bigger casinos and stay on the main boardwalk and don't venture too far from the casinos. Vegas is like that to an extent, too...wander a couple blocks off Fremont St. or parts of the Strip and you're in areas that rival AC, but with bigger, badder gangs.
As a gambler, the main thing that keeps me away from AC and might make PA more attractive is the minimums and the prices. If Mt. Airy Casino Resort can give me a less expensive hotel stay and not force me to play $15+ minimums on Craps (better yet if they have several $5 tables) then I will be attracted to their casino. If they just offer more of the same as AC, without the variety of casinos and without a beach, I see no reason to go there. I can fly to Vegas and stay for 2 or 3 nights for the same price (including airfare) as going to AC, and when I get to Vegas I have inexpensive and better and more options for food, entertainment, and lower stakes tables ($3 and $5 craps and tables).
From what I see, since posting the OP, the PA alternative really doesn't offer much to attract me other than a slightly shorter drive. For the same money, I'll drive an extra hour and enjoy the beach (even in winter) and the variety of large casinos, and maybe even the nearby shore towns.
As for crime, I have no more worries about AC than I do of Vegas or NYC or Philly or any other city I visit - I'm always aware, I always know there is a chance of being mugged, but I also know that I can minimize the risk and that the risk is about the same anywhere.
I don't want my government trying to figure out the business strategies for corporations. The casinos are big boys. Let's let them make their own business choices and hope the government stays on the sidelines until asked.
I'm glad you agree with me that the government shouldn't make the casinos' business illegal with their laws. Let the government step aside. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, let all gambling be legal everywhere in NJ. If you don't agree with that, then you are the one who believes government should be determining business strategies for corporations.
Clear enough for you or do you want to make more smarmy jokes?
Touchy, eh?
It was sarcastic, but there was a serious point there about the logic of the comment. It didn't make much sense as stated. In fact, it was so hyperbolic and contradictory that I found it very funny. What you stated couldn't have possibly been true.
It still doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense as you're stating it. If he was murdered in the garage, then he wasn't kidnapped. If he was kidnapped, then it's not the case that "he never made it out of the garage".
So I searched for a minute, and I'm assuming that you must be speaking about Martin Caballero? If so, apparently they got into a fight with Caballero, kidnapped him, stealing his car in the process, then drove away. They killed him sometime after they drove away. So he did make it out of the parking area.
"Today was the first day of table games in PA casinos, and they are very brazenly targeting NJ customers."
Brazenly? Is there something wrong with advertising to potential consumers? Or did AC advertising never target anyone in PA?
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