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Old 07-25-2010, 06:38 AM
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We recently had to replace our tub diverter faucet and plumber said it was probably eroded due to the hard water we have. Of course, he tried to upsell us on a water softener system for $2,700. We have noticed alot of hard water stains on our fixtures and have difficulty removing them. Any recommendations for good removers that won't tarnish fixtures? Does anyone have a water softener system in their home and notice the difference? We're contemplating getting one, but the cost seems steep and not sure if it's really necessary. Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:58 AM
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$2700 seems very high for a water softener installation. I currently have a kenmore water softener which was only about $700 but it is horrible. I had someone from culligan come in and they quoted me $1800 for their top of the line water softener including installation and removal of the old unit (this is for a house with 4 bathrooms). I moved from NYC where the water supply is already soft and I am just used to having soft water. Hard water does not suds well and also builds up residue on your fixtures and in your appliances. I am definitely going to get the culligan unit. You can also rent a unit but if you buy a unit it will pay itself off after 5 years. If you plan to stay in your house for a long time buying is the better option.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:08 AM
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There is certainly a difference between hard and soft. Most noticable to me was the residue left over on glassware after washing them.

$2700 is crazy. $500-700 is about what they cost. you can install yourself if you are so inclined as well.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:23 AM
Location: NJ/NY
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I need one as well. I heard you can rent them too, and all servicing is included in the monthly fee. Has anyone heard of this?
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:48 PM
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Renting is only a good option if you only plan to stay in the house less then 5 years. After 5 years the unit will pay for itself. There is a big difference between a 500-700 softener and a more expensive unit. The kenmore i have which was about $700 does not automatically recharge and cannot really achieve an exact softness. The water will be really soft following a recharge and will slow become less soft until you manually recharge it again. A unit like a culligan will automoatically recharge and will maintain a specific softness level. When i built my house I put in a kenmore and wish I had done more research because it is a real pain to constantly recharge and play with the unit to get the water softness correct. The culligan is supposedly a set and forget unit. You just have to replenish the salt or hire a service to do that for you.
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:00 AM
Location: all over NJ-currently in Totowa
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Hard water- -bad news

Im reading this thread with interest as I have to do something- -undrinkable, and I think all the minerals are leaving hard water stains- -
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:52 AM
Location: NJ
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Definitely get a water softener, but I don't know what the "right" price should be. My uncle's house has very hard water, and there were pipes breaking all over his house for years. I'm sure he spent thousands on plumbers replacing pipes. Once he got the water softener installed he has been trouble-free.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:40 PM
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Hard water?? Where do you live in a caves of the middle east? I dont know what hard water is and probably never will. Move....to someplace in the 21st century.
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Old 07-26-2010, 03:06 PM
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Many towns in my area( Hawthorne/Wyckoff, ) have hard water and a softener is the way to go...if it bothers you. From what I've heard it would have to be pretty extreme to have any effect on plumbing, I'm not a plumber but thats what I've heard.
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:12 AM
Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Hard water is usually associated with having well water which as anyone who has ever lived in a house with well water knows this is the best water you can have for drinking. Unfortunately it is usually very hard water and can cause problems (corrosion) with the copper pipes that carry the water throughout the house.
Best solution is to install a water softener for most of the system but to also provide a tap ahead of the softener for your drinking water.

Many people spend a lot of money to buy bottled water but if you are lucky enough to have good well water you are way ahead of the game.
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