Double Dipping Pensions, the joys of Public Pay (health insurance, unemployed)

[newjitty]

numbers seem to scare you as they refute any of your vague and general postings..

you said private workers make more..

i showed you 2 separate studies sourced from the Bureau of Labor and Bureau of Economics showing otherwise.

what studies do you base this on?

it's a simple question you keep dodging with further smoke and mirrors.

again, to clarify what studies do you base your notion that private workers make more?

simple question.

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by newjitty

Some of these teachers are way below 30 years experience - a quick scan in Union City gave me:

Ca****, Regina $112,878 - 10 years
Ramos, Rebecca $114,278 - 7 years
Bennetti, John $111,813 - 16 years
Perez, Geraldin $108,706 - 17 years

FYI,

You list has:

A: No teachers
B: One person with a Doctorate
C: A special Ed specialist
D: 2 administrators
E: 3 with masters degrees.



NJ Teacher Details
RAMOS, REBECCA
School Psychologist
Degree: Doctorate


NJ Teacher Details
BENNETTI, JOHN
Degree Masters
Assistant Principal Elementary School


NJ Teacher Details
PEREZ, GERALDIN
Degree Masters
Middle School Principal


NJ Teacher Details
CA****, REGINA
Degree Masters
Learning Disabilities Teacher Consultant
School DISTRICT OFFICE

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by newjitty

numbers seem to scare you as they refute any of your vague and general postings..

you said private workers make more..

i showed you 2 separate studies sourced from the Bureau of Labor and Bureau of Economics showing otherwise.

what studies do you base this on?

it's a simple question you keep dodging with further smoke and mirrors.

again, to clarify what studies do you base your notion that private workers make more?

simple question.

I guess you missed it again when I said STATE workers right?

[newjitty]

Local and State workers were included in the study

where were your sources?

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by newjitty

Local and State workers were included in the study

where were your sources?

Your link:

•State and local. State government employees had an average salary of $47,231 in 2008, about 5% less than comparable jobs in the private sector.


Federal pay ahead of private industry - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm - broken link)

Also I understand that with benefits this can go in favor of the public sector. I see that as a trade off, more money in you pocket, for less health benefits or days off.

Are we done here yet? maybe get back on topic since we hijacked this entire thread

[newjitty]

i like how you bypass the accompanying newer link (dated August) showing state and local employees making more than private counterparts

Federal workers earning double their private counterparts - USATODAY.com

why do you keep jumping from one form of Public Employee to another in hopes of skirting a simple question?

where were your sources showing private workers make more?

simple enough

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by newjitty

i like how you bypass the accompanying newer link (dated August) showing state and local employees making more than private counterparts

Federal workers earning double their private counterparts - USATODAY.com

why do you keep jumping from one form of Public Employee to another in hopes of skirting a simple question?

where were your sources showing private workers make more?

simple enough

I used the link you posted for my fact. Why did you post it if it was no good?

You new link has no mention of state level workers. Only federal, and I never argued those.

Since you are going on about skirting issues, I suppose you are going to ignore my teachers post above

[newjitty]

Originally Posted by mikeym81

You new link has no mention of state level workers. Only federal, and I never argued those.

so just blatantly lie when the link I posted even has a huge graphic showing state and local employees?







Federal workers earning double their private counterparts - USATODAY.com

why do you continue to skirt the simple question?

i've given you sources from nj.gov, Bureau of Labor, and Bureau of Economics

where is your ONE source showing private workers make more as you claim?

[bradykp]

can you two just go make out in the corner already?!

[mikeym81]

Originally Posted by newjitty

so just blatantly lie when the link I posted even has a huge graphic showing state and local employees?







Federal workers earning double their private counterparts - USATODAY.com

why do you continue to skirt the simple question?

i've given you sources from nj.gov, Bureau of Labor, and Bureau of Economics

where is your ONE source showing private workers make more as you claim?

Here's my one source, same as yours

Federal pay ahead of private industry - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm - broken link)


Your graph is misleading. You again you miss words.

You graph is "Average compensation in 2009"

MY statement is:

•State and local. State government employees had an average salary of $47,231 in 2008, about 5% less than comparable jobs in the private sector.

Again, look at the difference. Not to mention due to the economic climate, your bound to see the overall private salaries drop since public works usually still get raises during these times.

Can you stop "skirting" that teacher issue? since you accuse me of doing it Or better yet both of us stop hijacking this tread.