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Old 06-29-2007, 07:34 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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this isn't a "blvd", but 440 in staten island is name MLK Exwy.
Only between the SI Expressway and the Bayonne Bridge. Plus while not proverty stricken, not the better side of SI.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:53 PM
 
Location: 32082/07716/10028
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I'm sorry..i was too busy checking on my 15 year old son who is on a 5 week visit to Japan. I am a resident of East Orange. This town is no different from any other urban city. If you are looking for trouble, you'll find it. I also take the train from Brick Church into NYC, and i find a lot of East Orange residents who are hard working individuals like everyone else.

Don't get me wrong. There are some areas in EO you would not catch me...i cherish my life. My husband and i have done everything we could to get our son into a New England boarding school (and NO, he does not play basketball, listen to rap, or dance hip hop).

Bottom line, don't paint everyone with a broad brush.

God bless.
sorry, but the 20% or so of the people in your town who are the lowest of the low taint it so badly that the outsiders view of your town is horrible.
Good people can be found everywhere if you care to look, but as they say a few rotten apples spoil the whole barrel
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Old 07-01-2007, 12:16 PM
 
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Hello,

There hasn't been a tremendous amount written about East Orange in these forums, but what I have read has not been positive. I also looked over the crime stats on city-data stats page for E.O. and it things do look grim.



A co-worker of mine is doing some volunteer work in East Orange. I'm considering going down there to help out as well but I will have some free time on my hands. I won't have a vehicle so public transportation and walking are my modes of transport. Despite the high crime, is East Orange safe enough to walk around during the day? I'll be based out of an area near the East Orange General Hospital. I don't plan on doing a whole lot of exploring, maybe just walk somewhere for lunch or dinner, pick-up some groceries.

Thank you

Most of these posters are making E.O sound like a war zone.

E.O. is like most other urban cities. If you're looking for trouble you will find it..if not, you will be fine. I will say that if you don't have good hood sense, and are of a pale complexion, you probably shouldn't walk around there at night.

The problem with the General Hospital area, is that it is only accessible by public bus or a taxi. (you have to call them...not flag them down). There is not much to see or do in the area, unless you like watching people. It is a small business area, serving just about anything you can think of to the urban community.

These are NOT strip malls...it is an urban area. General Hospital is really the beginning of about a 2 mile stretch of various business's, and storefronts along Central Avenue.

There aren't any real restaurants, or grocery stores nearby. There is a Wendy's a few blocks one way, and a Mcdonalds about 3 blocks the other way. There are various small stores where you might find a West Indian meal, small sandwich shops, etc.
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Old 07-01-2007, 12:24 PM
 
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Guess you said it all. If you're white, stay out of EO.
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Old 07-01-2007, 04:34 PM
 
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It's a safe bet to stay away from any town that has a MLK Blvd. (Ok, go ahead and flame), but just check crime stats first in that town.
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Guess you said it all. If you're white, stay out of EO.
Haha!

To the OP. It's got it's problems but it's not like you will be living there. Day travel should be fine. Just don't be a fool. The ghetto sections are like the ghetto sections in any city. The problem is most of East Orange is ghetto. Which is why the crime rate is so high.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:25 AM
 
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I have to agree with fxmom. I live here as well with a wife and children, and don't find East Orange to be a particularly dangerous place.

Like any urban or suburban area, you can find sketchy individuals and situations - primarily related to the drug trade - but guns are not blazing in the streets, and people are not geting mugged all of the time.

One important fact about E.O. compared to Newark is its relatively small size and populations. Everyone seemingly is a step or two away from knowing of one another, and the compact-ness of the city makes it fairly easy to exert police control over - and the police here are very into different kinds of surveillance (see a recent article in the NY Times).

For being such a small place, the areas of the city do vary greatly - from dense urban apartment style lving, to more town/old suburban large house plots with big yards and lots of trees, to closely constructed turn of the century tall houses on smaller plots, even a few row houses and aprtments above businesses.

I haven't been here that long, but my sense is that there were many uninforned, baseless attacks on a troubled, but by no means unliveable city.

I hope these thoughts are of some use.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:54 AM
 
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I have to agree with fxmom. I live here as well with a wife and children, and don't find East Orange to be a particularly dangerous place.

Like any urban or suburban area, you can find sketchy individuals and situations - primarily related to the drug trade - but guns are not blazing in the streets, and people are not geting mugged all of the time.

One important fact about E.O. compared to Newark is its relatively small size and populations. Everyone seemingly is a step or two away from knowing of one another, and the compact-ness of the city makes it fairly easy to exert police control over - and the police here are very into different kinds of surveillance (see a recent article in the NY Times).

For being such a small place, the areas of the city do vary greatly - from dense urban apartment style lving, to more town/old suburban large house plots with big yards and lots of trees, to closely constructed turn of the century tall houses on smaller plots, even a few row houses and aprtments above businesses.

I haven't been here that long, but my sense is that there were many uninforned, baseless attacks on a troubled, but by no means unliveable city.

I hope these thoughts are of some use.

this article published today is very reassuring:

Sensors silence gunfire

Surveillance system went up, crime went down
Posted on 07/22/07
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


EAST ORANGE Barney Wright remembers a night three years back when the body of a young man was found in the weeds on Lenox Avenue hours after it was filled with bullets only because someone walking by heard his cell phone ring.

Wright says no one on the street bothered to call police about the gunshots; residents had gotten too used to the constant pops outside their open windows from gang drive-bys, drug deals gone bad and fights over prostitutes.

A year later, city police started to reclaim the Lenox Avenue neighborhood. They hung cameras and gunshot sensors on utility poles, like those used to weed out snipers in the Middle East.

The sensors, each about the size of a coffee can, are remarkably sensitive and accurate. For example, they can tell dispatchers the location of gunfire to within 60 feet. They can tell the difference between a 9 mm Beretta discharging and a firecracker exploding and even give a window into the mind of the shooter.

Since the sensors went up, Wright says he hasn't heard any shots.

"The police came, put those things up, and the drug dealers left and haven't been back," Wright says. "Nothing happens here anymore."

Including Lenox Avenue, police put up 93 sensors and 18 cameras covering about half of this 3.9-square-mile city, which once had a main drag known as the "Fifth Avenue of New Jersey" that was transformed after race riots gutted neighboring Newark.

Police Director Jose Cordero says the sensors and cameras have helped reduce crime by 38 percent and shootings by 30 percent so far this year compared to 2006. The city has nearly halved the number of murders here, from 17 in 2004 to nine last year, Cordero said.

It cost the city about $150,000 for the technology, although it received a considerable price break from the companies that designed and installed the equipment as a demonstration for other cities, Lt. Chris Anagnostis said.

Also helping is a "Virtual Community Patrol," which gives some residents in the city's roughest areas access to a Web site showing panoramic views of their neighborhood through the cameras, so they can use their computers to report crimes in progress.

At headquarters, a team of dispatchers monitors screens that look through the cameras.

Gunfire has become almost nonexistent in the worst parts of East Orange. Cordero said the only gunshot on Lenox since the cameras and sensors went up was a celebratory round fired off last New Year's Eve, near a condemned apartment complex halfway up the block that used to be the main spot in the city to get heroin and crack cocaine.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:39 AM
 
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Tons of "normal" working people come from this town. Parts of it would be considered ghetto but that is most def not reflective of every resident. For outsiders I would not rec wandering around at night. During the day you would be o.k. if you avoided certain zones. If you are an outsider(not a local)-you are much more likely to be a crime victim in this community. No matter how streetwise you think you are. Common sense always a good idea.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:49 AM
 
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this article published today is very reassuring:

Sensors silence gunfire

Surveillance system went up, crime went down
Posted on 07/22/07
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


EAST ORANGE Barney Wright remembers a night three years back when the body of a young man was found in the weeds on Lenox Avenue hours after it was filled with bullets only because someone walking by heard his cell phone ring.

Wright says no one on the street bothered to call police about the gunshots; residents had gotten too used to the constant pops outside their open windows from gang drive-bys, drug deals gone bad and fights over prostitutes.

A year later, city police started to reclaim the Lenox Avenue neighborhood. They hung cameras and gunshot sensors on utility poles, like those used to weed out snipers in the Middle East.

The sensors, each about the size of a coffee can, are remarkably sensitive and accurate. For example, they can tell dispatchers the location of gunfire to within 60 feet. They can tell the difference between a 9 mm Beretta discharging and a firecracker exploding and even give a window into the mind of the shooter.

Since the sensors went up, Wright says he hasn't heard any shots.

"The police came, put those things up, and the drug dealers left and haven't been back," Wright says. "Nothing happens here anymore."

Including Lenox Avenue, police put up 93 sensors and 18 cameras covering about half of this 3.9-square-mile city, which once had a main drag known as the "Fifth Avenue of New Jersey" that was transformed after race riots gutted neighboring Newark.

Police Director Jose Cordero says the sensors and cameras have helped reduce crime by 38 percent and shootings by 30 percent so far this year compared to 2006. The city has nearly halved the number of murders here, from 17 in 2004 to nine last year, Cordero said.

It cost the city about $150,000 for the technology, although it received a considerable price break from the companies that designed and installed the equipment as a demonstration for other cities, Lt. Chris Anagnostis said.

Also helping is a "Virtual Community Patrol," which gives some residents in the city's roughest areas access to a Web site showing panoramic views of their neighborhood through the cameras, so they can use their computers to report crimes in progress.

At headquarters, a team of dispatchers monitors screens that look through the cameras.

Gunfire has become almost nonexistent in the worst parts of East Orange. Cordero said the only gunshot on Lenox since the cameras and sensors went up was a celebratory round fired off last New Year's Eve, near a condemned apartment complex halfway up the block that used to be the main spot in the city to get heroin and crack cocaine.
The parts closer to newark are dangerous i'll make no excuses for that, however the parts heading into bloomfield/montclair and Glenridge areas are nothing to worry about i'd say however i would recommend anyone walk around late at night around any area alone no matter how safe you claim the area to be
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:30 PM
 
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Default it's no biggie

My friend and I went to look at foreclosure homes in Irvington a few years ago. No one bothered us and we never felt uncomfortable walking around. You will be fine.
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