Worst towns in NJ (Kearny, Cliffside Park: restaurants, shops, to move)

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by Pretender

I will pass on New Jersey now. Everyone is leaving it seems to go to other places. The population has dwindled a bit, and the state is now number 9 on the most populated states. It is too crowded and too much urban sprawl for my taste.

it's too crowded so you want to leave. you want to leave because everyone's leaving and the population has dwindled (which isn't true, BTW). doesn't it stand to reason that you should stay because everyone is leaving? why follow the crowds that you hate so much? have you investigated parts of the state that aren't crowded and don't have urban sprawl?

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Daisy

Yes, that is true that more people are leaving Jersey. It has lost a lot of people. You can have all the illegals and the crime.

http://www.npg.org/states/nj.htm

doesn't seem like the population has declined.

[Crazy_Daisy]

Originally Posted by tahiti

http://www.npg.org/states/nj.htm

doesn't seem like the population has declined.

Yes, it has. It was reported on CNN a few weeks ago. North Carolina took New Jersey's spot. New Jersey should be number 9 on the most population list.

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Daisy

It is prettier and nicer than New Jersey, and it is has more to offer. Nice beaches, mountains, and wide open spaces. We are getting all the retirees and a lot of migrant workers to work on the farms. Great colleges too. I went to the University of North Carolina. Duke..

You know, 'prettier and nicer', sure...why not? More to offer?!! You must be crazy. You just named: beaches, mountains, open spaces, farms(which Jersey has but, you'd rather leave...but whatever) And don't get me started with colleges: Princeton, Rutgers, and Seton Hall just to name a few. Jersey's system of higher education doesn't rival SC's, it surpasses it. And are you talking about both Carolinas because I thought Duke was in Durham(unless they have campuses in SC ).

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Daisy

Yes, it has. It was reported on CNN a few weeks ago. North Carolina took New Jersey's spot. New Jersey should be number 9 on the most population list.

Given the size difference (I think 4th smallest), I'm pretty sure ratio wise(if Jersey was the same land area as SC) that Jersey is MUCH larger. We are the densest state in the country. Because we are so dense, a little relief I would not see as bad (but then...that's just me).

[Crazy_Daisy]

You are correct. More people are just moving South, but New Jersey isn't losing any people:

"American Cities: Best of the best
North Carolina, which gained 184,086 people, a 2.1 percent increase, passed New Jersey, which gained just 21,410 residents, to break into the 10 most populous states list.

That most populous list is topped by California with 36.5 million residents. About one of every eight Americans lives in the Golden State.

Regionally, the West grew faster than any other area, 1.5 percent. The South was next at 1.4 percent, with the Midwest third (0.4 percent) and the Northeast trailing (0.1 percent).

Louisiana lost residents in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. Its population dropped by 219,563 people, or 4.9 percent.

Other states that lost residents were Rhode Island (minus 0.6 percent), the District of Columbia (down 0.09 percent), Michigan and New York (both down 0.05 percent). "

[Crazy_Daisy]

I am talking about North Carolina. Duke is in North Carolina, and Debra was talking about South Carolina. New Jersey is too crowded and it has become too polluted. Even my New Yorker husband doesn't like New Jersey.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Daisy

Yes, it has. It was reported on CNN a few weeks ago. North Carolina took New Jersey's spot. New Jersey should be number 9 on the most population list.

duh. are you serious? north carolina's population INCREASED MORE than NJ's. doesn't mean NJ LOST people. NJ's population is increasing. i wonder if you're one of those who are moving to NC to get away from crime and illegals in NJ. did you know the illegal population in NC increased over 16 times since 1990? And SC's illegal pop. grew 1000%?

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Daisy

You are corrrect. I hate the cities, and I also loathe Philadelphia. My brother went to Stephens Institue of Technology, and he couldn't stand Hoboken. It could be my upbringing also, since both of my parents were born and raised in Colorado. My brother was born in Boulder, so maybe we just do not care for "urban life". No, I have never been to Caldwell or Livingston.

Then I'll just say it's not Jersey you hate, it's the Northeast at which New Jersey sits at the center of the Boston/Washington D.C.megalopolis (I believe 2nd densest if not the densest part of the country).

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Daisy

I am talking about North Carolina. Duke is in North Carolina, and Debra was talking about South Carolina. New Jersey is too crowded and it has become too polluted. Even my New Yorker husband doesn't like New Jersey.

LMAO: You're New Yorker husband doesn't like Jersey?! Most New Yorkers don't like Jersey! Or at least have something bad to say about it. (tha hell with NYers/hey, they feel the same way about us/I'm not ragging your husband btw) And again...I'm not calling you an out-of-stater, HOWEVER, an out-of-stater would definitely say something like 'NJ is too polluted' because they simply don't know. Jersey has a lot of industry, but that's not the whole state. I live in Old Bridge now and when I walk outside, ah it smells of trees. There's a forest in my backyard that runs to Monroe (the next town over) and a small stream that fills as a lake when it rains and smells wonderful...that's my Jersey. Not the turnpike...