Worst towns in NJ (Vineland, New Brunswick: camping, areas, county)

[cyntmac]

Yes the south is very integrated and that's great but it has its own unique history and that makes a difference. I think cost of living has far outpaced white flight for the major reason a family would flee at this point. I say that because Nj is fairly segregated and of course because of cost of living. NY, NJ, and most of New England will never consolidate. The system that is in place is antique in many ways. But the old political machine and the way of life will not allow for much consolidation. It will become even more expensive I suppose. There are definitely towns in the south where lower income people can live decently. Some of them are away from the cities a bit but if that is what people are looking for they can find it down there. You wont find it in NJ for sure.

[missy2]

Originally Posted by cyntmac

Yes the south is very integrated and that's great but it has its own unique history and that makes a difference. I think cost of living has far outpaced white flight for the major reason a family would flee at this point. I say that because Nj is fairly segregated and of course because of cost of living. NY, NJ, and most of New England will never consolidate. The system that is in place is antique in many ways. But the old political machine and the way of life will not allow for much consolidation. It will become even more expensive I suppose. There are definitely towns in the south where lower income people can live decently. Some of them are away from the cities a bit but if that is what people are looking for they can find it down there. You wont find it in NJ for sure.

yOU ARE RIGHT! i HAVE FAM IS SOUTH jERSEY.

nj IS TOO EXPENSIVE TO LIVE! oNLY THE RICH SURVIVE! pOOR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE.

[picsesmauve957]

Originally Posted by missy2

yOU ARE RIGHT! i HAVE FAM IS SOUTH jERSEY.

nj IS TOO EXPENSIVE TO LIVE! oNLY THE RICH SURVIVE! pOOR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE.

Maybe if you didn't rape the cap locks, people would take you more seriously.

[cyntmac]

It's not that working/lower income folk can't survive- it is that they survive just barely and at that point life becomes about something else. I think that is sort of a no brainer.

[Gerania]

Originally Posted by picsesmauve957

Maybe if you didn't rape the cap locks, people would take you more seriously.

lIGHTEN uP!

[talkofthepeople]

Originally Posted by jknic

You know it helps to look at an ENTIRE city before demoting it. As a resident of Vinealnd I can easily say without even considering our rivelry with Millville that Millville is worse, percentage wise. They have a higher crime rate and more of their town is "ghetto". Brigetown is worse than Millville becasue of its small size. The inner city crime areas will overflow into the affluent neighborhoods. Seriously vist, not just sort of drive by, and reserch a town before saying that it is crap

Hackettstown and Washington are bad. The crime is bad and the so call police are so dumb they could not find a dead horse if it was 10ft behind them.

[ScranBarre]

Originally Posted by talkofthepeople

Hackettstown and Washington are bad. The crime is bad and the so call police are so dumb they could not find a dead horse if it was 10ft behind them.

That can't be right. After all, Hackettstown was ranked on the "Best Places" list not too long ago, and we know those rankings are NEVER wrong.

[zaza216]

Cyntmac Is So Right. Also The Middle Income People Are Finding It Hard To Stay Ahead. People Are Getting Sick Of Living Paycheck To Paycheck. When Their Kids Go To College It Can Be Worse . New Jersey Has Been Ruined By Corruption And Deep Pockets Of The Politicians. What Was Once A Great State To Live Has Become A Thing Of The Past.
As To Hackettstown ,,,i Have Family Living There. I Have Really Never Heard Of Any Crime There And It Is A Beautiful Place. There Are Not That Many Police Because Of The Low Crime. Sometime Some People Are Disgrunted Or Have Gotten Into Trouble And Make Harsh Assumptions That Are Not True. Maybe They Were Once Arrested For Wrongdoing And Did Not Like Facing The Music? Im Sure Hackettstown Have Some Pretty Smart Officers On Their Side

[paullySC]

Originally Posted by Georgia

Good for you for not following the "Going South" line.

I just love it when folks from Jersey and NY talk about heading down to the Southern Utopia, Yes the lovely south, in reality its about as lovely as a mud fence ugly woman after a 12 pack

Take it from this Southern guy. I lived in NJ for 10 years and consider it my adopted home town. Yep! nothing worse than Jersey property tax and car insurance. The cure there is get rid of the teachers union and your property taxes will drop by two thirds and the teachers instead of the union thugs may get a raise to top it off.

Ok, take away the bad in Jersey. Let's talk good.
The Shore
The Water Gap
The Food, nuttin beats the food!!!
Pick your teams
The Blessed Eagles
Giants
Jets
6'ers
Flyers
Devils
Islanders
Nets
Knicks
Skanks
Met's
Phillys
all the minor leagues
God almighty I could just go on!

So, you want to move to the South with the rest of the fools.
Let me describe it to you in words you will find local if you move here, simply put, No Joisey speak
"Don't matter how much you try to polish a turd, it's still a turd"

You see what Jersey has, now lets try the south
Ok, warmer weather and more shoreline.
Bad football
Bad baseball
Bad Hockey, well the minor league Gladiators are ok.
The food, well if you like fried this, fried that, and tea sweet enough to rot your teeth out then ok.
Real Estate is cheaper, yeah! but you better get a full line inspection since most of the homes are built by illegal aliens "The Souths new slavery" at a buck an hour that don't know the difference between a 2x4 and a nail.
Traffic. Well Atlanta and Miami can make the BQE, the Parkway, and turnpike look like a walk in the park.
How about the train. That's easy just get on, pray, and keep your back to the wall. Leave your valuables at home.
Crime. Well Atlanta just overtook Camden as the most dangerous city limit area with a population of less than 500,000.
Atlanta is #1 in bank robberies, assaults, theft, forgery, and gaining ground on car jackings in America.

Sure come on down. Will be glad to say sorry Dorthy, your not in New Jersey anymore!


Taxes and liberals be damned, each day I work to get back to Jersey by transfer. Maybe soon, see I along with the majority of others looking for transfers must have a relo program, well since nobody here can sell their homes, well, maybe after 2 years on the market.

What was it Mick Jagger sang about NYC, "bite the big apple" but don't mind the maggots.

Come on down, to crime central we have more than maggots to offer. It's an entire cesspool. A very dry and dirty cesspool.

Jersey my Jersey. I'll take it anyday.

Everybody has an opinion. Mine is the opposite of yours. I grew up in central NJ and have been living in SC for 14 years. I love it here and would never move back to NJ or live anywhere else. The south is a great place to live. But you hate the south and I hate the north, I guess it's the same in the end.

[reprot]

I just found this site. I'm reading the "worst towns" and laughing so hard. I grew up in Camden. Is it bad now, yep, was it bad then, probably, but living there really introduced me to a number of cultures and how to get along with others. I'm no Mary Poppins but I'm no a Shrinking Violet either. I feel bad about Camden I don't know how that city could ever be turned around. My dh is a NJ Transit driver hauling x-junkies back and forth to the methadone clinic, he said if it wasn't for the clinic he wouldn't have any passengers through Camden and that is sad.