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i'd love to know how people would like the aftermath of no DoH or DoA or FDA...people take safe food on their plate for granted. I'm not saying it's perfect, but you're truly underestimating their value.
Not to mention that doing all that really doesn't save very much. It's all going to come down to cutting entitlements and military spending while raising taxes.
i'd love to know how people would like the aftermath of no DoH or DoA or FDA...people take safe food on their plate for granted. I'm not saying it's perfect, but you're truly underestimating their value.
do you know what these federal agencies do to ensure this? i believe all these departments are duplicated at the state level. i believe their value is overestimated and what they accomplish can be done much more efficiently.
Not to mention that doing all that really doesn't save very much. It's all going to come down to cutting entitlements and military spending while raising taxes.
it actually saves a lot but when you compare each thing against total spending, it may not look like that much. yes, you need to tackle the big entitlements but cutting smaller pieces shouldnt be dismissed as "not that much." when looking at my personal finances, i may cut down my cell phone plan and save $10 a month, my cable, make some changes to cut down my utilities a bit. everything adds up.
raising taxes is pointless without a real plan to cut spending. just like immigration reform is pointless without protecting the border first. you shouldnt even talk about raising taxes until spending cuts are agreed on and implemented.
it actually saves a lot but when you compare each thing against total spending, it may not look like that much. yes, you need to tackle the big entitlements but cutting smaller pieces shouldnt be dismissed as "not that much." when looking at my personal finances, i may cut down my cell phone plan and save $10 a month, my cable, make some changes to cut down my utilities a bit. everything adds up.
raising taxes is pointless without a real plan to cut spending. just like immigration reform is pointless without protecting the border first. you shouldnt even talk about raising taxes until spending cuts are agreed on and implemented.
I fully agree that every little bit helps and changes need to made pretty much across the board. My point was that so many people harp on cutting this agency or that agency, getting rid of foreign aid, etc. Without realizing that together it adds up to very little saved with potentially a lot lost. No one wants to tackle the real issues.
Just to make this discussion more pertinent, look at the issue with the debt ceiling. If we don't raise the debt ceiling (which I believe we should only in concert with a real plan to fix this issue) the government will be short over a trillion dollars within the next 12 months. What bills don't we pay? Unfortunately the answer is none as we will simply print money to pay the obligations as no one seems to have the political cajones to do what's needed.
do you know what these federal agencies do to ensure this? i believe all these departments are duplicated at the state level. i believe their value is overestimated and what they accomplish can be done much more efficiently.
yes, they audit facilities on a sample basis and organize and announce product recalls. I'm not aware of how this is done at the state level. but if it's done by every state, i would argue that it's more efficiently managed centrally, and it's probably costing us more at the state level (how does NJ ensure that a plant in CA is providing safe food to NJ other than taking CA's word on it?). Maybe it could be done better at the state level. If it's truly duplicated efforts, then fine - eliminate it somewhere. But I don't believe that's the case. I know a few people in food science in this industry....i can ask them for more info, but it's beyond what i know.
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