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Old 02-10-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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That's what I thought too. If its a closed system, how is it they had "lack of freon"?!
Does the freon refilling has anything to do with the rusting/staining on the condenser tray?
I understand that its not a deal breaker, but down the road, in a couple of months, I dont want to have to pay for a replacement unit. How much should I ask the seller to hold in the escrow? any terms and condition on the that?
A 16 year old compressor is already WAY living on borrowed time. You will be replacing it within a short time. Just part of homeownership.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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The freon leak is totally separate from rust on the condenser tray, which really isn't something I'd be concerned about. AC units cool the air by removing heat from it, and with that heat comes moisture. The moisture (water) drips into the condensate pan below the coil, and is drained out of the house. If he's saying that the plenum of the unit itself has rust stains, that likely means the pan either has a leak or has overflowed at one time, causing water to get into the plenum below. If that's the case, the condensate drain lines should be checked for clogs, and the pan checked for leaks.

All of this is completely separate from the freon issue. The bigger concern is the re-charge of the system back in July due to "lack of freon". As mentioned above, freon doesn't just disappear, so there's a leak in the system somewhere. If they simply recharged the system without finding and fixing the leak in the refrigerant system, it's only a matter of time before the freon level gets low enough again that the unit stops working. That could be next week, or it could be two years from now.
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:36 AM
 
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That's what I thought too. If its a closed system, how is it they had "lack of freon"?!
Does the freon refilling has anything to do with the rusting/staining on the condenser tray?
I understand that its not a deal breaker, but down the road, in a couple of months, I dont want to have to pay for a replacement unit. How much should I ask the seller to hold in the escrow? any terms and condition on the that?
Yeah, the rust would be from the condensation leaking.

I've had to refill my freon on my AC unit though. The HVAC guy said it's a temp fix, but so far we've gotten another summer out of it. Just going to wait til it can't be fixed anymore.

I don't think you can do an escrow thing on this. You can ask, but not sure you will get it.

If anything negotiate a little bit off the price of the purchase if you can, but not sure how that will fly.
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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Some people just re-fill their system once a year because it leaks a little bit. This is ghetto but I wouldnt put $1500 into a 15 year old system .
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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That's what I thought too. If its a closed system, how is it they had "lack of freon"?!
Does the freon refilling has anything to do with the rusting/staining on the condenser tray?
I understand that its not a deal breaker, but down the road, in a couple of months, I dont want to have to pay for a replacement unit. How much should I ask the seller to hold in the escrow? any terms and condition on the that?
Ours lasted 18 years and was replaced last year.. The condensor is rusting away and is on its way out (if not already gone) The worry free contract is nice but they will not replace the whole system only attempt a repair on the old one.. If they can't get parts your out of luck.

Look here.. We had these guys do a whole home energy audit, re insulation, duct cleaning, Carrie infinity hybrid hvac, 95% efficiency water heater installed by them and NJ gave rebates on a $20k system down to $6500 and then was giving a 10 year NO interest loan for it so it cost us like $60 a month for a system that saves us about $70-100 a month on gas and electric. It sounds too good to be true but it not.. We are very happy on the outcome.. oh and the whole systems have a 10 years total parts and labor contract included..

Hutchinson Plumbing Heating & Cooling
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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Thank you for all your help guys. I will see if we can agree to some escrow money until I get an HVAC specialist.
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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Thank you for all your help guys. I will see if we can agree to some escrow money until I get an HVAC specialist.

I'm confused and maybe some of the other posters could help me on this. Whan I was in the process of purchasing my house, one of the things I had written in the contract was the sale was contigent upon the inspection. We not only noticed rust around the AC compressor, but there was a lot of rust on the furnace pipes. Once the report came in I requested that they make the house available for a Plumber and HVAC Specialsts to inspect before we moved forward, did and I recieved a report that allowed me to request credit for the servicing of both the Compressor and Furnace. Can this not be done in your case?
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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Ours lasted 18 years and was replaced last year.. The condensor is rusting away and is on its way out (if not already gone) The worry free contract is nice but they will not replace the whole system only attempt a repair on the old one.. If they can't get parts your out of luck.

Look here.. We had these guys do a whole home energy audit, re insulation, duct cleaning, Carrie infinity hybrid hvac, 95% efficiency water heater installed by them and NJ gave rebates on a $20k system down to $6500 and then was giving a 10 year NO interest loan for it so it cost us like $60 a month for a system that saves us about $70-100 a month on gas and electric. It sounds too good to be true but it not.. We are very happy on the outcome.. oh and the whole systems have a 10 years total parts and labor contract included..

Hutchinson Plumbing Heating & Cooling
Glad to "know" someone who had a positive experience with them. My HVAC system is decently efficient (as much as an 18 year old system can be) but it will be do for a replacement soon and I was considering giving them a call.
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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let me know goat and Ill give you the name of the inside people who helped me. It was well worth the phone call. Be quick tho, not sure how long the $$ will be available from the state...
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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A 16 year old compressor is already WAY living on borrowed time. You will be replacing it within a short time. Just part of homeownership.
I agree with this. You should plan to have to replace it. Shop around, because different HVAC contractors have been sending mailings with different deals. Just had mine replaced. It was 26 years old, but the month after I moved in, I needed it serviced twice, and that was last July and if you remember last July...

I knew when I bought my condo that the furnace and the A/C were both old and decrepit and that I would have to replace them. Just figure that into your plan. All the good HVAC contractors offer financing deals, too.
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