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can someone, pray tell, explain to me what "steak" I'm getting? I pay more (in general) than someone in South Jersey so it just seems commiserate. even though i'm not sure what you guys are lacking in that we up north are bathing in. i think i need to go revisit a thread on this. i think this is more an inferiority complex than anything (no offense).
well, the further south you go, the less public transportation dollars they get, i would assume. but what do they need? lol
can someone, pray tell, explain to me what "steak" I'm getting? I pay more (in general) than someone in South Jersey so it just seems commiserate. even though i'm not sure what you guys are lacking in that we up north are bathing in. i think i need to go revisit a thread on this. i think this is more an inferiority complex than anything (no offense).
It was simply a general statement about the way things unfold in the state. While it is true you "pay more in general", you don't pay anymore to the state than someone living in South Jersey. There are several ways that South Jersey gets "screwed" on funding. Most obvious is transportation funding for highways and rails. The next is education funding. Out of the 31 Abbott Districts, 8 are in South Jersey, the remaining 23 are in North Jersey and with the exception of Camden, ours are relative peanuts compared to the size and cost of the ones in North Jersey.
It's not sour grapes at all, so don't take it that way, just pointing out that there are some discrepencies in allocation of state money. It is next to impossible to get the exact distribution figures, but I think it is a fair statement to say that folks in South Jersey only get back change for every dollar they send to the state. It may be .80 cents or it might be .95 cents, but there is a disparity.
Can someone please tell me why there is NO exit for 30/NJ Turnpike or 42/Atlantic City Expressway (SJ's version of the Turnpike) on the NJ Turnpike? I find that an even bigger slap to the face to South Jersey than the messy 42 & 295 intersection!
Can someone please tell me why there is NO exit for 30/NJ Turnpike or 42/Atlantic City Expressway (SJ's version of the Turnpike) on the NJ Turnpike? I find that an even bigger slap to the face to South Jersey than the messy 42 & 295 intersection!
why would you take the Turnpike when 295 runs parallel? I never understood this, I chuckle when I look over to my left going southbound and see all the ppl on the Tkpe.
why would you take the Turnpike when 295 runs parallel? I never understood this, I chuckle when I look over to my left going southbound and see all the ppl on the Tkpe.
295 runs only parallel up to a certain point. If you want to go farther north then Trenton, then you have to take the Turnpike. At that point, you mind as well have been on the Turnpike the whole time. I don't see why there can't be an exit built for rt. 30 and rt. 42. (Wait a minute, I thought the state wanted us to give them toll money? Guess NJ doesn't need it after all!)
Plus, the Turnpike is closer to someone coming from Atlantic County than say 295 is. When you're on the AC expressway/42 (going towards Philly), you'll see a sign that says Tpk at exit 12 (for 168 north); you have to take that exit (which turns into a two lane road-one lane on each side with traffic lights) to get to the actual Turnpike ramp. You lose time on the commute, especially if you have to get somewhere asap. Now that doesn't make much sense to me.
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Can someone please tell me why there is NO exit for 30/NJ Turnpike or 42/Atlantic City Expressway (SJ's version of the Turnpike) on the NJ Turnpike? I find that an even bigger slap to the face to South Jersey than the messy 42 & 295 intersection!
Hi StressedCollegeGirl,
The first few exits on the Turnpike from the southern terminus were the first ones completed, historically, back in 1951. Rt 42, which turns into the Atlantic City Expressway, was not expanded from Williamstown until about 10 years later. Hence, there was no road to hook the exit up to at the time!
I don't know how I know this, other than the fact that I have about 130 historical road maps stowed away in my closet that I take out and read every so often!
The first few exits on the Turnpike from the southern terminus were the first ones completed, historically, back in 1951. Rt 42, which turns into the Atlantic City Expressway, was not expanded from Williamstown until about 10 years later. Hence, there was no road to hook the exit up to at the time!
I don't know how I know this, other than the fact that I have about 130 historical road maps stowed away in my closet that I take out and read every so often!
Thanks for the information, Mike!
But they've had about 50 years to create an exit for rt. 42 and US rt. 30. The state probably lost lots of toll change over the years (that stuff adds up!) by not making the Turnpike exit accessible to those highways. There will always be people like me who are in a hurry and don't mind paying extra just to get somewhere faster. Only in NJ!
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