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Old 06-23-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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I am not saying that Texas does not have a better business climate than NJ but the big difference in terms of taxes is they have oil and natural gas that produce significant revenue. The States with the best budget situations now are the natural resource States.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Everyone thinks all the politicians are bad.......except for the ones that represent them. And so we end up with the same thing over and over. Nothing is going to change. We won't see a mass replacement of the current gaggle of innefective politicians. And then everyone will scratch their heads and wonder how "everyone else" could vote them in again.

I think NJ would be a much better place if all policticians could only serve one term. Then they could actually get something done instead of worrying about please whatever group they think has the best chance of getting them elected again.
i've contemplated this idea, but there's problems that exist with that as well. it would be nice to try it, but like anything, a new job takes time to get acclimated to and become effective in. there's something to be said about "senior" members, but they also have more time to become corrupt...
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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i've contemplated this idea, but there's problems that exist with that as well. it would be nice to try it, but like anything, a new job takes time to get acclimated to and become effective in. there's something to be said about "senior" members, but they also have more time to become corrupt...
So maybe extend the term a bit.
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Whatever he is doing is pro business. NJ is the most anti-business state behind NY. We have the highest property tax and #4 (tie with NY) in income tax, and we still cannot balance the balance.

State like TX does not even has an income tax and guess what, they has a surplus. 4 out of 10 jobs that were created in the last few years are in TX.
why is it that all the rich states are the ones that are supposedly the most anti-business? how did they pull this off? as the states that are supposedly so "pro business" grow and get more businesses that do things that result in the people in the state calling for their state to monitor the businesses more...they'll be right on par with us. it's a cycle.
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Old 06-25-2011, 12:00 AM
 
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why is it that all the rich states are the ones that are supposedly the most anti-business? how did they pull this off?
Most educated liberals live in "rich states" because that's where the culture (to each his own idea of "culture") , colleges ( any worth bragging about and where they can hide, endlessly), communities chock full of fellow liberal whiners, and jobs, that fill self-rightous liberal egos, are.

Liberals are anti-business by nature, and only because they don't "want to". Better someone else "wants to" and cuts them a check 2x a month. Yet they complain b/c their boss/ bosses make more than they do. Without taking any consideration in to how their boss/bosses got to the point so they could hire the liberal's dumb behind.

Take a risk, put up the capital and start or buy your own business and see how you feel about the liberal employee who works 40 hours a week max complaining that he deserves so much more than he is worth for gracing your presence with his entitle attitude.


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the states that are supposedly so "pro business" grow and get more businesses that do things that result in the people in the state calling for their state to monitor the businesses more...they'll be right on par with us. it's a cycle.
It's not a cycle.

What states would those be? And what "businesses" across the board would you be referring to?

In NJ, big old blue anti-business state...folks are calling the education system and the union for those employed in the education system, to the carpet.

You've not noticed how the blame gets tossed on to everyone and everything BUT the scam known as the NJ public education system and all that it encompasses?
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Old 06-25-2011, 12:24 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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If were so anti-business whats with the spike in private own family businesses recently?
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:03 AM
 
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If were so anti-business whats with the spike in private own family businesses recently?
There's a spike?

Health insurance mandates, the cost to turn the lights on, corporate (as small as you may be) taxes, capital gains taxes, personal income taxes, property taxes...a business is penalized for growing.

That's just a little clue to how anti-business NJ is.
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:09 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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There's a spike?

Health insurance mandates, the cost to turn the lights on, corporate (as small as you may be) taxes, capital gains taxes, personal income taxes, property taxes...a business is penalized for growing.

That's just a little clue to how anti-business NJ is.
Private cafes and bistros and bars and small businesses seem to be opening up in the Denser suburban / Urban areas. I beleave there's 15 in Jersey City UC , 7 in Newark and Hackensack has at least 8 UC. Most large scale towns have 1 or 2 Businesses opening up each month....but there not hiring alot , maybe only 5-15 ppl.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Would you guys feel any different if CC decided to use that money that he was handing out on himself in order to get into shape and lose all that weight?
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Anti-business does not mean no businesses will open. But it probably means big companies looking for a place to open up shop are probably going to pick another place. But even that won't be all the time.
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