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it does come from religion and it is the best way to raise children.
you randomly wrote "separation of church and state" as a sentence. that makes no sense.
I agree with the others that you are closed minded and ignorant, and it just keeps coming.... and that you need to pick apart a phrase I wrote "Separation of church and State" is ridiculous, and again obnoxious.
"It's the best way to raise children." That is only in your opinion- not everyone else's across the board.
LOL, I am sorry, but 'bombarding you'....?
Did we all sent you private emails or did you not open this post and read it by your own free will....?
lol, no, but I do go to college, and the amount of crap that gets shoved in my face there drives me nuts. I just needed a public forum to vent/complain about how often it is (since those are not shoved into my face, unlike the private emails and pamphlets that I have received in the past)
also, Captain NJ, are you calling me a liberal or complaining about them?
Marriage is sanctioned by society to support stabilization. Reduces fights for mates, provides male and female perspective and behaviors. Ensures economic, social and personal security for offspring as well as a member of society in training.
It also sanctioned and promoted by religion which also serves to provide stability.
With divorce rates so high society has become destabilzed but still a worthy goal.
Tradition defines marriage as a union between a man and woman and the ideal partnership to benefit society. Why can't that remain an undiluted ideal and goal of society?
If a civil union grants legal rights to a spouse why the push for 'marriage'?
Is the argument over terminology, political issues or legal issues?
Gay used to refer to a happy individual but somehow that word got hijacked. Hope it doesn't happen to the word marriage.
Go find another legal term for same sex marriage and call it a day.
Would voters foresake CC and dash the best hope of recovery NJ has had for generations based on a single issue? That is more than likely the time honored selfishness that has degraded NJ for generations. Keep up the good work.
Separate but equal. Bigotry didn't work for race, why would it work here?
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And marriage most certainly does come from government. It was first introduced as a way for men to declare women their property.
I can't find anywhere in the link you posted that shows marriage was used as a way for men to declare women their property.
given the history of referendums on this issue it seems like the legislators that vote against gay marriage are better representing their constituents than people who vote in favor of it.
let the citizens vote on it instead of forcing politicians to take positions on politically sensitive issues and making back room deals and arm bending.
NJ passing a law is not going to make those religions all of a sudden accept gay marriage.
Would the new law give people the right to sue religious institutions for discrimination and allow all people to get married in churches, if they wanted?
Which leads up back to earlier points. In NJ, what benefits are married couples getting that coules in a civil union are not getting?
In NJ, the word marriage says man and woman. Civil union automatically says gay and that may lead to discrimination. So, wouldn't the word "marriage" be a benefit?
Would the new law give people the right to sue religious institutions for discrimination and allow all people to get married in churches, if they wanted?
I can't fathom that. It's not like there aren't other groups of people who the Church won't marry.
In NJ, the word marriage says man and woman. Civil union automatically says gay and that may lead to discrimination. So, wouldn't the word "marriage" be a benefit?
I'm pretty sure someone can tell if two people are the same sex regardless of what you call it.
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