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I wonder if those people who "run" these big companies realize that by screwing the regular people, they will, in turn, screw their own kids, grandchildren, etc.
It all points to the trickle down effect. Start screwing the American people, put us out on the corner selling apples and pencils, and everything starts to fall apart. They and their families won't be immune to this forever. With people becoming desparate for money, etc., odds are that they or their children will somehow find themselves in a circumstance that they are on the wrong side of the "gun".
They might be in a bank that is going to be robbed by Joe "Regular" Citizen who is desparate to save his house, or be in a place where a newly fired worker goes "postal" (and forgive me for using that term...but I think it describes the situation).
They can't live in a bubble forever without being affected. It might not hurt them now, but a year, two years or even five years down the road, somehow it will come back to bite them in the "a**" in some way shape or form.
I wonder if those people who "run" these big companies realize that by screwing the regular people, they will, in turn, screw their own kids, grandchildren, etc.
It all points to the trickle down effect. Start screwing the American people, put us out on the corner selling apples and pencils, and everything starts to fall apart. They and their families won't be immune to this forever. With people becoming desparate for money, etc., odds are that they or their children will somehow find themselves in a circumstance that they are on the wrong side of the "gun".
They might be in a bank that is going to be robbed by Joe "Regular" Citizen who is desparate to save his house, or be in a place where a newly fired worker goes "postal" (and forgive me for using that term...but I think it describes the situation).
They can't live in a bubble forever without being affected. It might not hurt them now, but a year, two years or even five years down the road, somehow it will come back to bite them in the "a**" in some way shape or form.
I doubt they care, much like kings of old could care less about the commoners. When you gain riches and status, it does something to you psychologically. You start believing you are better than everyone else.
We really haven't evolved much over the past 4000 years. We still fight wars, we are still selfish, we still treat others like animals.
I do believe if things continue to go downhill, namely the gap between rich and poor continues to increase and the middle class disappears, there will be a rise in extremists activity, bordering revolution. Sadly this could be averted if the rich and big business developed some semblance of social conscience. There is nothing wrong with making money, but it can not be done without regard for society as a whole.
I doubt they care, much like kings of old could care less about the commoners. When you gain riches and status, it does something to you psychologically. You start believing you are better than everyone else.
We really haven't evolved much over the past 4000 years. We still fight wars, we are still selfish, we still treat others like animals.
I do believe if things continue to go downhill, namely the gap between rich and poor continues to increase and the middle class disappears, there will be a rise in extremists activity, bordering revolution. Sadly this could be averted if the rich and big business developed some semblance of social conscience. There is nothing wrong with making money, but it can not be done without regard for society as a whole.
What would it mean for them to "develop a social conscience"? Put it in plain English. Do you want the rich to hand over large chunks of their money, and big businesses to stop trying to make a profit?
and big businesses to stop trying to make a profit
If I read into what he's typing he means- for example instead of Exxon making a 10 billion profit in a quarter of a year would it be fair if they made 5 or 6 billion and hired some americans to work for a living. That goes with all the companies. They would rather pay a kid 46 cents a day in china then to pay an american 15-20 bucks an hour. Greed at it's finest, or should I say capitalism.
What would it mean for them to "develop a social conscience"? Put it in plain English. Do you want the rich to hand over large chunks of their money, and big businesses to stop trying to make a profit?
"Hand over" chunks of their money? "Stop" trying to make a profit? LOL Not sure where you get all this pity for the rich / big business.
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If I read into what he's typing he means- for example instead of Exxon making a 10 billion profit in a quarter of a year would it be fair if they made 5 or 6 billion and hired some americans to work for a living. That goes with all the companies. They would rather pay a kid 46 cents a day in china then to pay an american 15-20 bucks an hour. Greed at it's finest, or should I say capitalism.
YES to this^^. And look at that- they'd still make a hefty profit. Business can still make a profit, but they should do this while not trying to hoard every penny for themselves. It is also better in the long run for them. When they hoard all the cash and people are too broke to buy their products, maybe then they'll understand. This is what Henry Ford understood back in the day and believed in paying his workers a decent living wage- so that more people could afford his products. That's having a social conscience.
If I read into what he's typing he means- for example instead of Exxon making a 10 billion profit in a quarter of a year would it be fair if they made 5 or 6 billion and hired some americans to work for a living. That goes with all the companies. They would rather pay a kid 46 cents a day in china then to pay an american 15-20 bucks an hour. Greed at it's finest, or should I say capitalism.
So you want companies like Exxon to intentionally spend more money than they need to? I wonder how the stockholders would feel about that. I also wonder how many millions of average working class Americans own Exxon stock in their 401k or IRA, and how they'd appreciate your suggestion that the companies in which they invest should not make as much profit as they legally can.
"Hand over" chunks of their money? "Stop" trying to make a profit? LOL Not sure where you get all this pity for the rich / big business.
YES to this^^. And look at that- they'd still make a hefty profit. Business can still make a profit, but they should do this while not trying to hoard every penny for themselves. It is also better in the long run for them. When they hoard all the cash and people are too broke to buy their products, maybe then they'll understand. This is what Henry Ford understood back in the day and believed in paying his workers a decent living wage- so that more people could afford his products. That's having a social conscience.
It's not "pity" for anyone. It's a question. The post to which I responded said that the rich & businesses should develop a social conscience. I'd like to know what's meant by that. What do you want them to do?
"Hand over" chunks of their money? "Stop" trying to make a profit? LOL Not sure where you get all this pity for the rich / big business.
Yes, this is exactly what is going to happen. People are going to STOP spending money either because they don't have it, or they are afraid to spend it. Like right after 9/11 when people were afraid to travel. It crushed the travel industry. If people stopped buying refridgerators, toys, clothing, travel, camping gear, furniture...then the whole country will start shriveling up........
YES to this^^. And look at that- they'd still make a hefty profit. Business can still make a profit, but they should do this while not trying to hoard every penny for themselves. It is also better in the long run for them. When they hoard all the cash and people are too broke to buy their products, maybe then they'll understand. This is what Henry Ford understood back in the day and believed in paying his workers a decent living wage- so that more people could afford his products. That's having a social conscience.
Yes, this is exactly what is going to happen. People are going to STOP spending money either because they don't have it, or they are afraid to spend it. Like right after 9/11 when people were afraid to travel. It crushed the travel industry. If people stopped buying refridgerators, toys, clothing, travel, camping gear, furniture...then the whole country will start shriveling up........
What would it mean for them to "develop a social conscience"? Put it in plain English. Do you want the rich to hand over large chunks of their money, and big businesses to stop trying to make a profit?
How about keeping jobs in this country? Do CEO's need to make a $1 billion a year? Isn't $500 million enough? Companies are making record profits right now. Yet they cry that they need more tax breaks. For what? To hire more people, in other countries? Ive always tried to encourage kids to study hard in math and science because that's where all the goods jobs will be. Can't really say that anymore, unless they plan on moving to China or India to find jobs when they graduate.
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The rich always get richer and yet they complain the most. 
and big businesses to stop trying to make a profit
