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Old 08-12-2007, 12:04 AM
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Location: Collingswood, NJ
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I am a life-long Jersey native, currently living in Collingswood, which is considered South Jersey. I have been hearing people complain about our taxes for years, and have myself seen my taxes increase over $1000 in a few years. Now all the homes in my town will be reassessed and I am terrified of another increase (even $100 is too much in my opinion). How much longer can this happen???

Here is my question: WHY are NJ taxes so high? I really would like someone to explain this. No one I know really understands this. We are all a bunch of ignorant people just shelling out more and more money year after year, and we all complain, but no one can say why we do it or how to stop it. Of course, I know that the government is corrupt and there is over-spending or inappropriate spending, etc., but there must be more to it than that. Can someone who actually KNOWS the correct answer please tell me in a way I can understand? How do other states survive without ridiculous taxation? Are they hit in other ways?

I would appreciate it if respondents keep political leanings and prejudices aside. I just need to know this. THANKS!!
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Old 08-12-2007, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Bergen Co. NJ
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I am a life-long Jersey native, currently living in Collingswood, which is considered South Jersey. I have been hearing people complain about our taxes for years, and have myself seen my taxes increase over $1000 in a few years. Now all the homes in my town will be reassessed and I am terrified of another increase (even $100 is too much in my opinion). How much longer can this happen???

Here is my question: WHY are NJ taxes so high? I really would like someone to explain this. No one I know really understands this. We are all a bunch of ignorant people just shelling out more and more money year after year, and we all complain, but no one can say why we do it or how to stop it. Of course, I know that the government is corrupt and there is over-spending or inappropriate spending, etc., but there must be more to it than that. Can someone who actually KNOWS the correct answer please tell me in a way I can understand? How do other states survive without ridiculous taxation? Are they hit in other ways?

I would appreciate it if respondents keep political leanings and prejudices aside. I just need to know this. THANKS!!
Quite simply because it's a socialist tax and spend state which is run by a bunch of corrupt politicians who continue to get reelected year after year by an ignorant voting public. The state is bankrupt and if you think the taxes are high now just wait and see how bad it's going to get in the next couple of years. I've lived here all my life and can't wait to escape this embarrassment of a state. How sad.
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Old 08-12-2007, 06:14 AM
 
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"No one can say why we do it"...........LOL
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Old 08-12-2007, 06:17 AM
 
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The state is bankrupt and if you think the taxes are high now just wait and see how bad it's going to get in the next couple of years. I've lived here all my life and can't wait to escape this embarrassment of a state. How sad.
Really, all your life? If you can't wait- why so sad?
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:59 AM
 
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Teachers, and Cops!!!!!!!! This is why!
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Weehawken, NJ
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Teachers, and Cops!!!!!!!! This is why!
Well we need teachers and cops! Otherwise we'd live in a dangerous state with stupid kids...j/k

The taxes are a reflection of an extremely corrupt political machine in the state, the stupid voters who keep re-electing the same garbage year after year after year, the useless unions in the state, and the welfare haven New Jersey has turned into.

We all pay for the sins of Newark, Irvington, Camden, The Oranges, Jersey City, Elizabeth, Passaic, Patterson, Atlantic City, and parts of Trenton. This will never stop either.

One of my biggest clients lives in Montclair and he was mentioning to me last week that his taxes were 16.5K/year. That is an obscene amount of money to pay especially when it's a nothing special house on a small lot.

I'm sure unions were much needed when this country and state was developing, but do we still need them? No way in hell. They just keep bullying until they get their way which ultimately means more money out of our pockets.
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:19 PM
 
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Regionalize the police force , as far as teacher look at Pascack Valley !!! Unions are killing us teachers and cops are unions sir. By the way I dislike cops the ones here ticket the housewife with the minivan. I mean You go 10 miles and see in each town 2 cops its obsurd for certain parts of Bergen County REGIONALIZE THEM! But they are in the club!!! I dont care I close on my house August 27th and let someone else pay for this crap.

Its funny someone said to me if you had a TON of money and can insulate yourself its great. I disagree, I want out even if I had 100 acres and all the money in the world I hate it here. I hate it all. And this is not sour grapes, I could stay here Im not broke, I just like MOUNTAINS!!!!!!
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Regionalize the police force , as far as teacher look at Pascack Valley !!! Unions are killing us teachers and cops are unions sir. By the way I dislike cops the ones here ticket the housewife with the minivan. I mean You go 10 miles and see in each town 2 cops its obsurd for certain parts of Bergen County REGIONALIZE THEM! But they are in the club!!! I dont care I close on my house August 27th and let someone else pay for this crap.

Its funny someone said to me if you had a TON of money and can insulate yourself its great. I disagree, I want out even if I had 100 acres and all the money in the world I hate it here. I hate it all. And this is not sour grapes, I could stay here Im not broke, I just like MOUNTAINS!!!!!!

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to the OP - see the thread called "non emotional thread about taxes" for some answers.

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Old 08-13-2007, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Sunshine N'Blue Skies
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I think it is school taxes, rather then town taxes that make for these huge bills.
By the way.......what mountains are you headed for? So happy for you

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Old 08-13-2007, 07:07 AM
 
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Thanks, yes unless this person starts the thread , I can say what I want. I see whats going on around here. I have seen my Husbands shop ( he is an auto mechanic with a body shop connected to it) all go to Mexicans. I see cops and teachers getting huge paychecks and Unions like all the contractors making a lot of money. Its the club, if your in it is great, if your not its bad. I will give you two situations that show how scarey it is here. The town Old Tappan my husband grew up in was all woods, then its was middle upper class people. They have teared down all the woods ,and split levels because they are on big lots and built Mansions. Now look at the NJ MLS on old Tappan, most and I mean MOST of the houses are priced over 1 million. Thats nerve racking. Now take a dump like my house, Its an old craftsman, I have fixed up some of it, but cant afford to do it all, so in otherwords its not the HGTV makeover home. Now if my dump of a house taxes go up lets say to 12000 a year who the hell is gonna want it. If they can pay that they are going to want an Old Tappan mansion thus this is getting rid of the first time home buyers. I could go on and on.

Thanks for the kind words I am going to a town by Plattsburgh, NY and love it. I hold no emoition feeling here, I am not angry hey they can raise the God damn tax all they want now! Let every union milk it, and every politician get the steak and prostitute with the tax payers money.

Thanks again I like you too!!!!
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