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Old 03-14-2011, 01:11 AM
Location: Jungle City aka Jersey City
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Originally Posted by doc2be View Post
To even put a more unique spin on your already unique viewpoint, why not consider arrogant, racist cities as the worst places to live? As a 3rd generation upper-middle class black from the South and the stepmother of bi-racial children, I have had some of the most unpleasant and overtly racist experiences in my life in Northern New Jersey, and in what Money magazine and other "majority" publications consider some of the "most liveable" towns. Some of the worst cities for raising middle class minority families because of the environment created by racism are, in my opinion, Parsippany, Verona, Montvale, Kenilworth, and the Caldwells. I am sure I will add to this list as my time in the racially segregated North lengthens, but I have had direct or subtle--but still clearly racist experiences in all of these areas in the 8 short months I have lived in New Jersey and have never been made to feel so unwelcome in my life (other than in areas where poorer descendants of Confederates live in the South).

I noticed in two of these "worst" NJ towns that working class blacks (at fast food stores and in other jobs like this) treat blacks they perceive to be higher class worse than whites because of their adoption of the perspective that economic success (or the perception thereof) is a white phenomenon. Some Hispanics, and even usually non-confrontational Asians, were rude and seemed to resent my perceived success, and I have been followed by police until I guess they recognize the college stickers and plates on my "luxury" car they probably mistook for a drug dealer's? What is going on?

Such experiences in 2011 when America is more diverse than ever greatly concern me, as does my complete bafflement with the fact that many whites here label all blacks and have the institutional forces of property tax dollars and the criminal justice system to maintain their segregated dillusionment. Do we choose to forget that nearly 80% of all U.S. born blacks were in poverty in the 60's after 400 years of the murderous apartheid of America's legalized racism provided whites "only" with economic advantage that they could pass down to their children? The fact that ONLY 24.7% of all blacks are in poverty today (75.3% are not in poverty--a complete flip-flop in just 40 years) is nothing short of a miracle--yet it is a fact that most don't know or don't choose to know - even when I provide them with this link to current Census Bureau Data proving just that (http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/pover...009/table4.pdf). Most people (including blacks who buy into this insanity) seem to prefer labelling all blacks.

Is it to make themselves feel better? I honestly do not get it and am not sure why this phenomenon persists. It is unfortunate that the descendants of the Great Migration who only came to the North to escape the rapes, lynchings, and legally-enforced economic theft and psychological damage of the South, experienced structural discrimination of a similar brand in Northern New Jersey that resulted in geographical and psychological segregation that has persisted to the present day and resulted in their poverty.

I have never understood the moral superiority of America with such stains on our national character. God help America.
well those places you have listed aren't really cities, racism becomes an issue when someone has gone to the suburbs. I have had to deal with prejudices as soon as i left the JC area and headed into the suburbs.
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Old 07-23-2015, 11:26 PM
Location: NJ, near NYC
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I've decided to comment, because some of these "ghettos" are pathetic. Lodi, EP, & Little Ferry are ghetto? I went to elementary school in EP, it's very suburban! Lodi & Little Ferry aren't attractive, but nowhere near "ghetto". Garfield is much worse than Lodi. Brigantine, LP, & Weehawken are nice!

Worst Cities: Elizabeth, Newark, Camden (worst in USA), Trenton, East Orange, Irvington. Most of Paterson, AC, & Newark. Certain areas of JC, Passaic, & Asbury Park

Poorer Non-Dangerous Cities: Garfield, North Bergen, West NY, Union City some of Clifton.

Cities Labeled Ghetto By Suburbanites: Hackensack, Egg Harbor, Toms River, New Brunswick, Rahway, Englewood, Teaneck, Edison, Belleville, Montclair (nice town), Morristown (nice areas) Phillipsburg (rural, not a city).

I've heard Vineland & Millville are bad, although I've never visited. North NJ cities are more urban, so many of them seem worse than southern NJ cities (except Camden).
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:46 AM
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Vineland is huge, and the suburbs are nice. Same thing outside of downtown Milleville. The area is beautiful. Just don't live in town.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:56 AM
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Downtown freehold, crime is increasing in that area, and they are building yet again another section 8 housing. Also most of the parlin and sayreville apartment sections which take up a chunk of the town definitely.
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:07 PM
Location: NJ, near NYC
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Also, another decent town labeled ghetto is Dover.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:43 PM
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Sorry,Union City is ghetto,and racism against non-hispanics is rampamt
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Old 07-27-2015, 10:14 AM
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1. Camden - high crime, vacant run-down buildings, drug issues, extreme poverty
2. Paterson - high crime and efforts to build anything half decent have been vandalized
3. Trenton - same as Camden, just slightly less so
4. Elizabeth - smells, dangerous
5. Newark - Despite some decent areas, Newark remains rundown and dangerous in most areas
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