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Old 11-18-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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I'm a black man saying this myself. In general, blacks in dangerous cities tend to be the ones who make those cities the way they are. It's a sad but honest truth.
As a black man I have to agree with you. How does this look? Your son is involved in some gang related activity, he's clearly to blame for something he's done, shot and killed by the cops, and now you're crying about how the cops took your baby away from you and that he was such a good person, and now the ACLU is involved when this guy deserved what he got.

Some people don't like Al Sharpton, but even he said that the black community needs to stop making excuses for it's bad elements and not allow these people to do what they do. Yes, there are cops who can stand to use a few diversity lessons, I firmly believe though that in any bad situation that you are involved in, you have to look at yourself and ask what did I do that contributed to this problem. That's what the black community needs to be doing right now.

If you look in these cities and what you have a whole culture of "I don't give a ****," but yet the same people want to complain about the conditions they live in.
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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If you look in these cities and what you have a whole culture of "I don't give a ****," but yet the same people want to complain about the conditions they live in.
See also: Wall Street, Occupy.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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That guy got assaulted at Mercer County College a few months ago, I believe.......unless it's another Nazi from Hamilton.
Oh wow...I did notice I haven't seen him in several months... guess it's the same guy
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Old 11-19-2011, 05:50 AM
 
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as a black man i have to agree with you. How does this look? Your son is involved in some gang related activity, he's clearly to blame for something he's done, shot and killed by the cops, and now you're crying about how the cops took your baby away from you and that he was such a good person, and now the aclu is involved when this guy deserved what he got.

Some people don't like al sharpton, but even he said that the black community needs to stop making excuses for it's bad elements and not allow these people to do what they do. Yes, there are cops who can stand to use a few diversity lessons, i firmly believe though that in any bad situation that you are involved in, you have to look at yourself and ask what did i do that contributed to this problem. That's what the black community needs to be doing right now.

If you look in these cities and what you have a whole culture of "i don't give a ****," but yet the same people want to complain about the conditions they live in.
+100 Great post!!!
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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You haven't seen my office, then.

The confederate battle flag isn't a symbol of racism. It's the battle flag of an army supporting a government which was pro-slavery... but you could say the same about the Stars and Stripes.
And the swastika just means good luck in Hindu religions.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Epping,NH
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Does she spend this much time on her education?
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Old 11-19-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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You haven't seen my office, then.

The confederate battle flag isn't a symbol of racism. It's the battle flag of an army supporting a government which was pro-slavery... but you could say the same about the Stars and Stripes.

And the school picking on the "I love boobies" bracelet is pretty much exactly the sort of thing I'd expect small-minded authoritarians to do.
No? Ever been in the deep south? It's not flown because the locals are Civil War historians.
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Old 11-20-2011, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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i think schools should have uniforms, or a strict dress code at least that limits graphics on clothing anyways. this crap distracts from the learning environment, and if you're going to work virtually anywhere after high school, you're going to need to follow a dress code anyways.

also, it's easier in the morning when all you have to decide is which pants you're wearing - khaki, or navy. etc.
Wowza..you & I are usually at different poles on issues but I totally agree with you.
I went to Catholic school so wore a uniform but I must say back when I was in school even though public schools didn't wear uniforms they had a dress code.
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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As a black man I have to agree with you. How does this look? Your son is involved in some gang related activity, he's clearly to blame for something he's done, shot and killed by the cops, and now you're crying about how the cops took your baby away from you and that he was such a good person, and now the ACLU is involved when this guy deserved what he got.
If he's shot and killed by the cops during the commission of a crime or when he's in the process of being arrested for a crime, you have some reason to think - some reason to think - that he may be at fault. In most cases, though, there is a much greater chance of an unarmed black man being shot and killed by police simply because of what they look like (see Bell, Sean; Grant, Oscar; Diallo, Amadou, etc.) Bottom line is, there is no reason for cops to kill unarmed, uncharged people, yet it still happens. Nobody deserves to be shot by cops unless they're trying to kill the cops themselves. We do have something called "due process" in this country. Don't we?
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:26 AM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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Nobody deserves to be shot by cops unless they're trying to kill the cops themselves. We do have something called "due process" in this country. Don't we?
OK so the cops go into the 7-11 holdup and the bad guy has a gun and just killed 3 people and is pointing it at one of your family members or a close friends head and is threatening to kill them. Lets see Lucario doesn't want the police to shoot the bad guy because in your view they shouldn't kill or shoot the bad guy if he is black and not shooting at the cops. Got it. What a warped society we live in.
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