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Old 12-19-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Even the people who "dislike" Newark should have a vested interest in seeing it do well.
It makes no sense to do otherwise. Ignoring, dismissing, minimizing NWK's socioeconomic issues prevents New Jersey from having a true, concentrated business hub.

*just adding on to what 66nexus stated*
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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People don't go there. Do you live under a rock ? What the hell are you talking about, I live in the Ironbound which draws thousands every week to its bars and restaurants also was at devils game PRU center 12/16/2011 soldout 17,000 plus, was at NJPAC on 12/11/2011 Itzhak Pearlman soldout nearly 3,000 attended. PRU center last year drew 2.3 mil 3rd in USA 8th in world, NJPAC 6th largest performing art center in USA 500.00 plus last year nearly 8 mil since it opened in 1997, Newark museum 400.000 plus last year thats alot of nobodys or maybe your just clueless !!!!
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We're on the same side dude, read the thread.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:00 AM
 
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Even the people who "dislike" Newark should have a vested interest in seeing it do well.
It makes no sense to do otherwise. Ignoring, dismissing, minimizing NWK's socioeconomic issues prevents New Jersey from having a true, concentrated business hub.

*just adding on to what 66nexus stated*
It doesn't mean I have to, and I don't want to. There's other places to do business besides Newark. We have over 8 million people in this state. I really need to see the progress being made with Newark before I can talk about how great it is.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Even the people who "dislike" Newark should have a vested interest in seeing it do well.
It makes no sense to do otherwise. Ignoring, dismissing, minimizing NWK's socioeconomic issues prevents New Jersey from having a true, concentrated business hub.

*just adding on to what 66nexus stated*
i want it to do well, but im not willing to go there and i do not support one penny of mine going there to "help" them.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I think it can help. People from the burbs can and do go to cultural attractions, festivals, games, and so on in cities all the time. After going to these events, they go to restaurants for dinner, then go out to the bars and clubs at night. These may seem like small things, but they can have multiplying positive effects, as the city gains a better reputation and more people spend time in it, and therefore spend more money in it. All of these things add up to improve the condition of a city.

So can more time and effort from suburbanites "solve" Newark? Most likely not. But can it help? Absolutely.
this seems to fall on deaf ears. it's certainly part of what can help newark, but what really needs to be done is more addressing of crime, poverty, and education. and no, that's not code for 'spend more money' - the city needs to solve these issues though.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Yep, always suburbanites get the blame for city drug problems. Never mind that there's no shortage of drug users within the city (and in Philadelphia, in Camden's case). In the case of Camden and Newark, the city and suburbs really aren't well-connected. The suburbs around Camden are Philadelphia suburbs, and the suburbs around Newark are New York suburbs.
sure, drugs in the city and drugs in the burbs. that cocaine and marijuana has to come from somewhere. it doesn't just appear magically in Hoboken.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The phrase 'cut off your nose to spite your face' comes to mind when reading some of these posts.
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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It's just an artificial enclave. It does nothing to address the city's problems. Newark's too big for things like that to really change anything.
Never said it addressed the city's problems overall(except maybe bring more tax revenue to the city that wasn't there previously and help spur development in an area that was completely blighted from head to toe). That's like saying the stadiums in Cleveland helped the city overall. Or Jersey Gardens totally fixed Elizabeth, waterfront totally fixed Camden, etc. But it has helped like it or not. My point is you folks are saying people don't go there yet the PAC, Ironbound, Museum and now the Rock prove otherwise.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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Never said it addressed the city's problems overall(except maybe bring more tax revenue to the city that wasn't there previously and help spur development in an area that was completely blighted from head to toe). That's like saying the stadiums in Cleveland helped the city overall. Or Jersey Gardens totally fixed Elizabeth, waterfront totally fixed Camden, etc. But it has helped like it or not. My point is you folks are saying people don't go there yet the PAC, Ironbound, Museum and now the Rock prove otherwise.
Don't forget Branch Brook Park where many visitors come in April for the Cherry Blossoms.

And I was reading an article where people are moving into Forest Hills, a nice suburban section in the North Ward of Newark.

Yep that's right people with money are moving into Newark plus that section of Newark draws an ethnically diverse population there.

Or the Arts District on Halsey Street where many art galleries have opened up and artists from NYC are moving here.

Plus the immigrants have done a great job in starting small businesses here, especially the Broadway and Bloomfield Avenue where many stores and restaurants thrive on any given day.

As well as West Indians and Africans in the South Orange Avenue area.

the point is sure Newark has many problems but little thiings like these do help the city a lot.
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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The Newark library is very good (or it was the last time I was there), but the problem of going into Newark for things like that is that it's considerably more of a hassle than using local facilities. You have to drive farther, maybe pay tolls, deal with the traffic, and pay to park anywhere. So I order books through my local library and use local facilities for most things. There really aren't even any good stores in the Newark downtown area anymore.
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