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Old 02-08-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Epping,NH
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Every cop gets 3 shields to hand out
Try getting the facts before you embarrass yourself. Those shields, limited to three can only be in the possession of an immediate family member. Each shield has an sn directly linked to the issued party. Violations get them revoked by the state agency.

The FOP which is limited at best in NJ sells those associate shields to anyone. In NJ they are more likely to get you issued a summons than get out of one.

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"fancier" ones that look like the ones that the cops actually get
Not in this state. The NJ State PBA does not permit telemarketers. They are a scam to be avoided.
State Policemen's Association Declares War on Telemarketers

In fact, they want to be notified of these scams.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...KJnr_HT7uyuNhQ
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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^ This. A telemarketing company calls you/sends you a sticker and then if you actually send money back, they will send you one of those "fancier" ones that look like the ones that the cops actually get. So 95% of the shields you see are bought for a few dollars.
You are either misinformed "OR" like to fabricate stories. Either way this statement is untrue!
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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The MD plates work, but you do have to prove it's an emergency - usually by providing the name of the hospital and the patient you are rushing to. The cop then calls the hospital to verify. Sometimes when they don't believe you and they are close enough to the hospital, they give you an escort. Not to get you there faster, but to see if you're lying.
So your saying that it's an affirmative defense that a doctor can "LEGALLY" speed, provided that he / she is responding to a medical emergency?
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Lakewood, NJ
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So your saying that it's an affirmative defense that a doctor can "LEGALLY" speed, provided that he / she is responding to a medical emergency?
Technically, no one is "allowed" to speed, including police officers, unless their lights/sirens are on. What the original poster was saying is sometimes there are valid reasons for speeding and in the case of medical personnel responding to an emergency, they are usually given a pass if they can verify there is an actual emergency. It's not technically legal, it's the officer's discretion.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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Technically, no one is "allowed" to speed, including police officers, unless their lights/sirens are on. What the original poster was saying is sometimes there are valid reasons for speeding and in the case of medical personnel responding to an emergency, they are usually given a pass if they can verify there is an actual emergency. It's not technically legal, it's the officer's discretion.
I was in law enforcement for over 30 years and I read the post as "IF YOU HAVE M.D. PLATES" it's OK as long as your responding to an emergency. My reply was "THAT'S NOT TRUE". Having light's and sirens on also "DOES NOT" give an officer, fireman etc., the right to speed. They need to be responding to an emergency, or in the case of a police officer in pursuit. As far as medical personnel getting a pass, I agree, they are likely to get a break and yes, there were times that I did provide an escort.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Lakewood, NJ
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I was in law enforcement for over 30 years and I read the post as "IF YOU HAVE M.D. PLATES" it's OK as long as your responding to an emergency. My reply was "THAT'S NOT TRUE". Having light's and sirens on also "DOES NOT" give an officer, fireman etc., the right to speed. They need to be responding to an emergency, or in the case of a police officer in pursuit. As far as medical personnel getting a pass, I agree, they are likely to get a break and yes, there were times that I did provide an escort.
Sorry! I completely misread your post. I also meant they had to be responding to an emergency when speeding - thinking that's what the lights/sirens are on for then I thought about all the cops I've seen roll up to a red light, put their lights on, go through the light then turn them off - obviously not legal.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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Sorry! I completely misread your post. I also meant they had to be responding to an emergency when speeding - thinking that's what the lights/sirens are on for then I thought about all the cops I've seen roll up to a red light, put their lights on, go through the light then turn them off - obviously not legal.
EXACTLY, and if I caught one of my guys doing that, it earned them a couple of nights of foot patrol.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:32 PM
 
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First you said:

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"IF YOU HAVE M.D. PLATES" it's OK as long as your responding to an emergency. My reply was "THAT'S NOT TRUE".
And not even a full sentence later:

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As far as medical personnel getting a pass, I agree, they are likely to get a break and yes, there were times that I did provide an escort.
Are you disagreing with my post or not? All I know is - MD license plate, on the way to a hospital, no tickets. Ever. You're asking me if it's legal - how would I know, I'm not a cop or a lawyer.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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Regarding your other post: There are still scams where people posing as PBA, calling residents and asking for donations

Bizarre charity scam features calls from

http://portchester.patch.com/article...ack-police-say
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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First you said:



And not even a full sentence later:



Are you disagreing with my post or not? All I know is - MD license plate, on the way to a hospital, no tickets. Ever. You're asking me if it's legal - how would I know, I'm not a cop or a lawyer.
All I can say is WOW. Let me make it easy for you. There is no provision in New Jersey title 39 (STATE OF NEW JERSEY traffic laws), allowing doctor's to speed in a emergency situation (with or without M.D. plates). If a doctor is speeding to an emergency and gets stopped by a police officer is he likely to get a pass? PROBABLY. Are there police officers that would give the doctor a summons? ABSOLUTELY. Would the summons hold up in court? DEPENDS ON THE JUDGE AND PROSECUTOR. What I commented on is that I never personally gave a doctor a summons when responding to an emergency.
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