Police shields in car windshields (exemption, store, to eat)

[rscalzo]

MD license plate, on the way to a hospital, no tickets

Claiming to be on an emergency or actually responding to one. Vast difference. Had a false claim. Heading away from the hospital while climing to respond to an emergency is pretty stupid for a supposedly intelligent individual. Judge didn't buy into the excuse either.

Ever.

So what database or source of information are you using to document this statement?

[va_bank]

Originally Posted by rscalzo

Ever.

So what database or source of information are you using to document this statement?

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear - for me

[andrew.mensch]

Originally Posted by GoYanks34

Depends on the officer who pulls you over. Some will give you a pass but take the card, some give a pass and let you keep the card and some get pissed that you are trying to get a break by giving them a card. I have a PBA card and a leather drivers license holder thing with a metal police shield with the badge number in it from one of my best friends who is a cop in NYC but I've never actually used either of them when I've been pulled over. Never gotten a ticket either *knocks on wood* so I think it entirely depends on the cop. It also depends where you have the card from and where you get pulled over. For example, if you hand them a PBA card from NJ in Alabama they'll probably write you an extra ticket

It also depends what you get pulled over for - they're not letting you off the hook for any major offenses with a PBA card.

If there's equal treatment under the law, at least in theory... then this should be illegal. Then again, equal treatment is a theory, and is not, nor never will be real.

[Kiru]

Originally Posted by andrew.mensch

If there's equal treatment under the law, at least in theory... then this should be illegal. Then again, equal treatment is a theory, and is not, nor never will be real.

You said it, Andrew, though I wish you were wrong. It's amazing how cops change the instant they get behind the wheel. Spouting the law and ticketing us for what they commit as well, abusing their status to escape reprisal. I can't tell you how often I see cops talking on their cell phones while driving. And don't try to tell me having the cell on speaker, holding it up to their mouth, is their way of communicating with home base.

And as to professional courtesy not being alive and well... yeah, try sitting in municipal courts for a couple days. Last time I was in one, a cop's 15 year old daughter was in court for possession of pot and underage drinking while driving.

Gee, I wonder what happened to her? Her dad put his hand on her shoulder, *promised* the judge it wouldn't happen again, and she walked off scot-free (didn't even have to pay the default $30 some dollar court fee). Wonder what would have happened to the average Joe Schmo?

Yea, the thin blue line is alive and well.

Also, try suspending them for using their lights to get through red lights, not a couple late nights spent hanging out at a restaurant (aka foot patrol).

Sorry for the tone, but abuse of power irks me like nothing else!

[exhdo1]

Originally Posted by Kiru

You said it, Andrew, though I wish you were wrong. It's amazing how cops change the instant they get behind the wheel. Spouting the law and ticketing us for what they commit as well, abusing their status to escape reprisal. I can't tell you how often I see cops talking on their cell phones while driving. And don't try to tell me having the cell on speaker, holding it up to their mouth, is their way of communicating with home base.

And as to professional courtesy not being alive and well... yeah, try sitting in municipal courts for a couple days. Last time I was in one, a cop's 15 year old daughter was in court for possession of pot and underage drinking while driving.

Gee, I wonder what happened to her? Her dad put his hand on her shoulder, *promised* the judge it wouldn't happen again, and she walked off scot-free (didn't even have to pay the default $30 some dollar court fee). Wonder what would have happened to the average Joe Schmo?

Yea, the thin blue line is alive and well.

Also, try suspending them for using their lights to get through red lights, not a couple late nights spent hanging out at a restaurant (aka foot patrol).

Sorry for the tone, but abuse of power irks me like nothing else!

If they are on the cell phone then they are wrong. If they are on the police radio it's perfectly legal.
I wouldn't buy the police officer's daughter story for a nickle.
As far as hanging out in a restaurant when assigned to foot patrol, you just don't have a clue.

[rscalzo]

Oh Kiru, I can see the crocodile tears now.

try sitting in municipal courts for a couple days

Do you do that often? It seems you have so much real world experience there that I have to think you are one sorry individual to get caught so often.

late nights spent hanging out at a restaurant

Late night establishments love having the uniformed guys stop in. They are the ones that have no issues.

a cop's 15 year old daughter was in court for possession of pot and underage drinking

That comment alone shows that your comments are total fabrications.

A 15 year old possession charge would be held in Juvenile Court at the County level. Those proceedings are closed to the public outside of some witnesses and the parent/guardian/lawyer.


And Andrew...

If there's equal treatment under the law, at least in theory... then this should be illegal.

Then speed and red light cameras should be absolutely accepted. they have no discretion. It's all black and white. Is that how you see traffic enforcement (or any enforcement in general?) Why not go back to the doctor speeding in an emergency? Then there is no question that they get stopped and issued the summons. It's equal, remember?

[usedtobeanyer]

Originally Posted by exhdo1

Yes that's true. I once had a man that committed a murder and he was trying to flee in his vehicle. I chased him down and when I finally got him to stop, I noticed he had a PBA shield in his windshield. I promptly apologized for stopping him and let him go on his way. ARE YOU SERIOUS?????

So the point of these is what then?

[exhdo1]

Originally Posted by usedtobeanyer

So the point of these is what then?

Read the whole thread.

[GoYanks34]

If a doctor is legitimately on his or her way to an emergency and just going a bit above the speed limit, not driving like a lunatic (if they were putting other people in danger than that's completely different), then I don't think they should get a ticket. What if you or someone you love was that patient waiting for them in an emergency room and every second counted? Emergency rooms, especially late at night, are staffed with inexperienced interns/residents that are often sleep deprived and if a specialist is needed it is usually something serious.

And have you gotten a ticket every time you're pulled over? It's the same thing. It's the officer's discretion based on what you were doing, how you respond to them and your previous ticket history. Same for doctors. If you get a hard ass then you're getting a ticket. If you get a nice cop you probably won't (unless you were doing something that endangered others). I don't see how they are getting a pass. I've gotten pulled over for speeding in the past and received either a warning or no ticket and I wasn't in the midst of an emergency but I was only going a few miles over the speed limit, wasn't endangering anyone and have a clean driving record. I think it depends on who pulls you over more than anything - some cops are jerks and some are really nice. It's the luck of the draw for everyone.

[exhdo1]

Originally Posted by GoYanks34

If a doctor is legitimately on his or her way to an emergency and just going a bit above the speed limit, not driving like a lunatic (if they were putting other people in danger than that's completely different), then I don't think they should get a ticket. What if you or someone you love was that patient waiting for them in an emergency room and every second counted? Emergency rooms, especially late at night, are staffed with inexperienced interns/residents that are often sleep deprived and if a specialist is needed it is usually something serious.

And have you gotten a ticket every time you're pulled over? It's the same thing. It's the officer's discretion based on what you were doing, how you respond to them and your previous ticket history. Same for doctors. If you get a hard ass then you're getting a ticket. If you get a nice cop you probably won't (unless you were doing something that endangered others). I don't see how they are getting a pass. I've gotten pulled over for speeding in the past and received either a warning or no ticket and I wasn't in the midst of an emergency but I was only going a few miles over the speed limit, wasn't endangering anyone and have a clean driving record. I think it depends on who pulls you over more than anything - some cops are jerks and some are really nice. It's the luck of the draw for everyone.

Your one of the few that "GET IT"