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Old 10-04-2007, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Well, except for you.
No, I don't. I would not ask that. If in my club to a newcomer, I may ask where they moved from but that's just starting a conversation.
Diane
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Trinity Florida
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Well, except for you.
they dont ask them here either...only in NJ or at least where we lived..when you spoke to someone it was Oh what development do u live in?

and well why should that matter????

I did love NJ and StMarteen said it best its the politicians...and well I also think Society, u do have it everywhere but its a mentality thing..
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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they dont ask them here either...only in NJ or at least where we lived..when you spoke to someone it was Oh what development do u live in?

and well why should that matter????

I did love NJ and StMarteen said it best its the politicians...and well I also think Society, u do have it everywhere but its a mentality thing..
Okay, well...the irony is that "being better" is all Diane talks about on this forum. With the occasional very brief interjection of, say, a restaurant suggestion. That's why I was kind of surprised to see the referenced post.
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:36 AM
 
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they dont ask them here either...only in NJ or at least where we lived..when you spoke to someone it was Oh what development do u live in?

and well why should that matter????

I did love NJ and StMarteen said it best its the politicians...and well I also think Society, u do have it everywhere but its a mentality thing..
HEY! Look who found the time to bounce over from the NC boards and say hello.....

I'm assuming things are going well for you in NC, as they are for us in GA.

Bob
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:16 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Default oh no

*groan* is this going to turn into another "I left horrible NJ for..NC, GA, TN thread"

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Old 10-05-2007, 09:07 AM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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I guess I'm going to be kind of bias on this one to St.Maartin. I am a govt. employee, 30 years in the Police Dept., 50 years old and still working and PAYING TAXES like everyone else. She states that a guy 45 YOA has two pensions from NJ. It's almost impossible as you have to be at least 21 YOA to be hired by a PD. If you take the special retirement after 25 years the minimum you could be is 46 YOA with a reduced pension.
Most of the POs and fireman that I know came on in there mid 20s to mid 30's. Most of the uniformed employees like myself keep working into there mid 50's. The average age that one of these workers dies is 61YOA. Mostly ALL states have the same kind of retirement system for the sheriffs,POs and paid fireman. New York has a 20 and out retirement system and they are not in a fiscal mess like us, and I can go on and on. I quess this will **** alot of people off but these jobs are open to ANYONE who wants them.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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Jerseyman,

It's not the police or the fireman, you guys/gals deserve your pensions.
It's the town administators et al..some administrate over more then 1 town drawing a salary and down the road pension from both..maybe the towns in question should "consolidate" services
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:41 AM
 
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It's not the police or the fireman, you guys/gals deserve your pensions.
It's the town administators et al..some administrate over more then 1 town drawing a salary and down the road pension from both..maybe the towns in question should "consolidate" services
The double dipping in NJ is horrendous. I always thought drawing from a pension meant you were retired, I guess not so much.

I know of a school admin. who "retired" and then worked as a "substitute" principal every day, so he was drawing from a substantial pension and making a hefty wage subbing.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:51 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I guess I'm going to be kind of bias on this one to St.Maartin. I am a govt. employee, 30 years in the Police Dept., 50 years old and still working and PAYING TAXES like everyone else. She states that a guy 45 YOA has two pensions from NJ. It's almost impossible as you have to be at least 21 YOA to be hired by a PD. If you take the special retirement after 25 years the minimum you could be is 46 YOA with a reduced pension.
Most of the POs and fireman that I know came on in there mid 20s to mid 30's. Most of the uniformed employees like myself keep working into there mid 50's. The average age that one of these workers dies is 61YOA. Mostly ALL states have the same kind of retirement system for the sheriffs,POs and paid fireman. New York has a 20 and out retirement system and they are not in a fiscal mess like us, and I can go on and on. I quess this will **** alot of people off but these jobs are open to ANYONE who wants them.
then you get ppl like my dad who dropped dead from the job at age 55 who drew no pension! I don't understand the double dipping. I've heard a lot of ppl getting a job as a consultant after retirement but that doesn't lend itself to another pension.

plus, don't you have to pay into your pension?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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then you get ppl like my dad who dropped dead from the job at age 55 who drew no pension! I don't understand the double dipping. I've heard a lot of ppl getting a job as a consultant after retirement but that doesn't lend itself to another pension.

plus, don't you have to pay into your pension?
If you retire from the police force/fire department and then get another civil service job yeah if you get enough years in sure you get the pension.
It's the ones that simutaneously (sp?) work in 2 different locales at the same time drawing 2 seperate salaries and pensions
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