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Old 11-05-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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I was thinking this weekend, for the amount of money one would spend on such a setup, why not do solar or windmill instead? i guess they could get damaged in a storm, but you could use them year round...
Properly installed solar panels are surprisingly resistant to storm damage and generally installed on the rear/sides of a roof so they don't affect curb appeal. Windmills are very controversial due to their size and the noise they make.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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Something that never occurred to me prior to the storm was that some modern water heaters would function w/o electricity.
Obviously, if you have an old water heater with a pilot light, that would be fine, but...what about a more modern water heater without a pilot light?

Well, the answer is that, if your water heater has Piezo-electric ignition instead of conventional electronic ignition, then your water heater was able to continue functioning just fine w/o electric power.

Several hours after the power went out, I was amazed that my hot water was still hot, and I thought...the insulation on that tank is really good! But then, after more than 24 hours w/o power, when my hot water was still hot, I realized that this was more than just a case of good insulation. Sure enough, reading the manual that came with the water heater revealed that it uses Piezo-electric ignition, which actually generates its own charge for igniting the gas flame.

Of course, it was still not pleasant to take a shower when the house temp was only 55 degrees, but by running the shower with the bathroom door closed, the room was acceptably warmed-up when I exited from the shower. And, of course, I was able to wash my hands with hot water all though the power outage.

I am not suggesting that everyone should junk their existing water heater, but, when it comes time to replace your water heater, I strongly suggest that you pay a bit more for one with Piezo-electric ignition.


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Old 11-05-2012, 07:51 AM
 
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Something that never occurred to me prior to the storm was that some modern water heaters would function w/o electricity.
Obvioously, if you have an old water heater with a pilot light, that would be fine, but...what about a more modern water heater without a pilot light?

Well, the answer is that, if your water heater has Piezo-electric ignition instead of conventional electronic ignition, then your water heater was able to continue functioning just fine w/o electric power.

Several hours after the power went out, I was amazed that my hot water was still hot, and I thought...the insulation on that tank is really good! But then, after more than 24 hours w/o power, when my hot water was still hot, I realized that this was more than just a case of good insulation. Sure enough, reading the manual that came with the water heater revealed that it uses Piezo-electric ignition, which actually generates its own charge for igniting the gas flame.

Of course, it was still not pleasant to take a shower when the house temp was only 55 degrees, but by running the shower with the bathroom door closed, the room was acceptably warmed-up when I exited from the shower. And, of course, I was able to wash my hands with hot water all though the power outage.

I am not suggesting that everyone should junk their existing water heater, but, when it comes time to replace your water heater, I strongly suggest that you pay a bit more for one with Piezo-electric ignition.

My husband had the same situation. Hot water but no power. He said while he was in the shower it was great, and even in the bathroom with the door closed it got heated up with the steam--he is normally a two minute Navy shower guy, he was "splurging" on five minute showers last week . But then once he opened that bathroom door, reality hit him hard and fast.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:06 AM
 
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The only thing I would do differently is have a battery-powered radio. Never thought of that. I'm going to get one.

And I'll get a second set of candles for the floor-stand 7-piece candle holder my friend gave me just a few weeks ago. Told her it was the best present I'd ever gotten--those candles threw enough light to read by and lit up my whole living room.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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Something that never occurred to me prior to the storm was that some modern water heaters would function w/o electricity.
Obvioously, if you have an old water heater with a pilot light, that would be fine, but...what about a more modern water heater without a pilot light?

Well, the answer is that, if your water heater has Piezo-electric ignition instead of conventional electronic ignition, then your water heater was able to continue functioning just fine w/o electric power.

Several hours after the power went out, I was amazed that my hot water was still hot, and I thought...the insulation on that tank is really good! But then, after more than 24 hours w/o power, when my hot water was still hot, I realized that this was more than just a case of good insulation. Sure enough, reading the manual that came with the water heater revealed that it uses Piezo-electric ignition, which actually generates its own charge for igniting the gas flame.

Of course, it was still not pleasant to take a shower when the house temp was only 55 degrees, but by running the shower with the bathroom door closed, the room was acceptably warmed-up when I exited from the shower. And, of course, I was able to wash my hands with hot water all though the power outage.

I am not suggesting that everyone should junk their existing water heater, but, when it comes time to replace your water heater, I strongly suggest that you pay a bit more for one with Piezo-electric ignition.

I had hot water the whole time as well.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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Captain????

Oh, Captain? Care to weigh in on this thread?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:41 AM
 
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The only thing I would do differently is have a battery-powered radio. Never thought of that. I'm going to get one.

And I'll get a second set of candles for the floor-stand 7-piece candle holder my friend gave me just a few weeks ago. Told her it was the best present I'd ever gotten--those candles threw enough light to read by and lit up my whole living room.
Do you know that candles are being officially named as the root cause of the Breezy Point fire? (And one of the house fires my husband responded to in NJ.) Don't use candles in an emergency, they are a critical fire hazard. Buy a battery powered lantern and an extra battery, it will last 10 days with prudent use and you'll safely have all the light you need.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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Properly installed solar panels are surprisingly resistant to storm damage and generally installed on the rear/sides of a roof so they don't affect curb appeal. Windmills are very controversial due to their size and the noise they make.
Solar panels should be installed with a southern exposure. Many homes in my neighborhood have them on the front side. Just depends on how bad you want them. You can't just install them for aesthetic purposes.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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Do you know that candles are being officially named as the root cause of the Breezy Point fire? (And one of the house fires my husband responded to in NJ.) Don't use candles in an emergency, they are a critical fire hazard. Buy a battery powered lantern and an extra battery, it will last 10 days with prudent use and you'll safely have all the light you need.

I have flashlights and other sources, but I like the candles, too. I do not allow candles to burn unless I am in the room at the moment. I've survived two WTC terrorist attacks and a house fire started by a faulty furnace, and I'm a grown-up girl who knows how to use candles safely. Remember, our ancestors survived for milennia using fire for light and heat and by using common sense and safety practices when they used them.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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Solar panels should be installed with a southern exposure. Many homes in my neighborhood have them on the front side. Just depends on how bad you want them. You can't just install them for aesthetic purposes.
Why would you install solar panels for aesthetic purposes? They aren't exactly attractive.
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