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Old 11-10-2012, 07:49 PM
 
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It's not the government that is involved in it. It's the resident that are for it, and make sure to vote for politicians that are strongly supporting the blue laws for very good reasons.
No, it is the government that is involved in it. It's my understanding that businesses get fined for violating blue laws. Am I wrong? That sounds a whole lot like government.

Again, if the residents are so for it, why don't they do it individually and not through the government forcing you to do so? People enjoy saying how corrupt the government is, yet they're sure glad to give them more power.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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The laws may be anachronistic, but when I lived in the area and was driving around on Sundays I thought it was great. You should see it on Saturdays in the coming weeks before Christmas. You'd be better off on a skateboard with the traffic.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Especially when major holidays fall on a Monday every few years, such as Christmas or Fourth of July.

Basically Bergen County contributes nothing or very little to the sales tax pot 52 days out of a year compared to others. On purpose. Is that taken in to account when distributing state funds to the county or towns in it?
It matters but not as much as you think. When I worked retail in Paramus, the story that I heard is that EVERY company in the country fought to get a presence there, even knowing they'd be closed on Sundays. The malls & stores are among the most profitable in the country with several million people within an hour's drive.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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Nunnor has been quiet....guess he's working today. Ohhhh...the horror!
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:23 PM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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Okay people..... I've been driving on all of Rt 4 and Rt 17 today, and been to Bergen Town Center, Riverside Sq. Mall and Garden State Plaza Mall (Did not go to Paramus Park Mall though)

Nearly half of the stores at Garden State Plaza (Including all department stores, Apple Store, Jewelry, and plenty of small and big stores) remained CLOSED.

At Bergen Town Center, around 30% of the stores remained CLOSED. Very few employees working for those stores that were open.

Stores on Rt 4 and Rt 17 - around 70% remained CLOSED.

Target in Hackensack had only 2 registers open, and I spoke with their manager and said that nobody wanted to work, including him, but he had to and said he will never open his store again on Sunday because it was very quiet and waste of electricity and payroll.

Those were all permitted to be open for today, but decided to remain closed.

May God Bless All of Those stores that stood for quality of life and decided to still be CLOSED

I spoke with many police officers, mall security, and some workers that were working.... Guess what! They were all against being open today, and said it sucks.

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Old 11-11-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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So many of the stores did use there choice to stay close.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:46 PM
 
Location: East Rutherford, NJ
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Well that changes everything! My mind is surely changed now!

Oh wait, no it isn't. You spoke to a few lazy rent-a-cops and somehow that is grounds to state that "most people are against opening on Sundays, and working on Sundays."
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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People who are accustomed to not work on Sundays obviously don't want to work on Sundays. They could have other jobs, familial commitments, etc. The ENTIRE point is that businesses should have the option to be open, not forced by a government mandate that says you can't sell clothes on a Sunday. It is archaic.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:03 PM
 
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Is it acceptable to inconvenience a subset of people in order to assist people who lost their homes, family, jobs, businesses, and everything they had get their lives back together?

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People in Bergen County (if the OP is a fair representative) feels that it is an absurd idea. Businesses should not have the choice in whether they want to be open on a Sunday to help recover from the disaster and residents of the county should not be inconvenienced with outsider traffic. This stance shows how selfish people are.

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Everyone should be allowed to help in any way they choose and the blue laws should be temporarily suspended to allow a retail business to participate in the rebuilding efforts of the state. We should put our petty issues aside and come together as a state and work together. This stance shows how caring people are.

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Blue laws restrict freedom of choice and should be abolished. Moderator cut: off-topic

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Old 11-11-2012, 06:07 PM
 
Location: East Rutherford, NJ
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People who are accustomed to not work on Sundays obviously don't want to work on Sundays. They could have other jobs, familial commitments, etc. The ENTIRE point is that businesses should have the option to be open, not forced by a government mandate that says you can't sell clothes on a Sunday. It is archaic.
^ This.
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