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I totally agree with your first paragraph. Some people are just incorrigible, unrepentant in their own ignorance.
No, you needn't worry. I am not the "Grammar Police". Is there such a thing? I find it difficult to be something that doesn't exist.
You are also correct about demeaning poor fools. Sometimes our vile, wicked, sinful human nature gets the better of us and we lash out at the most obvious fool. We need to work on that.
What you say about these people is spot on, sir/madam. As soon as you give them an inch, they take a mile. I've seen it happen in some school districts, for example - look at what happens in Hudson County, with all these new people who are filled with entitlements. They've become a big problem in that part of the state.
As for the sarcasm, you must forgive me - I simply didn't interpret it in the way you wanted me to do so.
Good Evening.
Agreed. Let us hope reality TV proves a better sedative to them then Catholicism did.
As for sarcasm, I waffled between engaging in banter or simply posting this...
...with a rousing, "Ya'll come back now ya hear." I was not sure which method would make you feel less welcome and discourage you from continuing to post.
I have never worked for any employer that just fired you that day unless you were doing something illegal. So while it sounds like a nice justification against the the big bad mean employers the reality is this isn't the case all the time.
i think he was saying that employers fire you without two weeks notice, so why leave with two weeks notice. but i believe you are saying you dont see employers firing people the day they give notice. i believe it happens pretty frequently, the right thing for the employer to do is pay the 2 weeks if the employee gives notice.
i think he was saying that employers fire you without two weeks notice, so why leave with two weeks notice. but i believe you are saying you dont see employers firing people the day they give notice. i believe it happens pretty frequently, the right thing for the employer to do is pay the 2 weeks if the employee gives notice.
As someone who has had a large staff in the past, I almost always dismissed the person the day notice was given and paid them for the two weeks or however long they were giving notice for plus whatever they were owed per company policy like accumulated vacation time. The only exception were low skilled workers doing routine work that didn't have access to sensitive company information. Any administrators or managers and it was almost always an instant see you later. This wasn't being done to be mean, it was about protecting the company. Most people I know in finance, IT, management, etc. are in the same boat. Give notice and you get a free two week vacation. Like you, I think that practice is quite common.
i think he was saying that employers fire you without two weeks notice, so why leave with two weeks notice. but i believe you are saying you dont see employers firing people the day they give notice. i believe it happens pretty frequently, the right thing for the employer to do is pay the 2 weeks if the employee gives notice.
I know what he was saying. And that has never been my experience. All employers I have worked for would pay someone they let go for a minimum of two weeks. In most cases much longer. It would vary if they would actually expect you to work during that time.
EDIT: Right, I have never seen anyone fired immediately for giving notice. Again, sometimes they are asked to not come in, but they were never just told to leave without getting paid.
I know what he was saying. And that has never been my experience. All employers I have worked for would pay someone they let go for a minimum of two weeks. In most cases much longer. It would vary if they would actually expect you to work during that time.
EDIT: Right, I have never seen anyone fired immediately for giving notice. Again, sometimes they are asked to not come in, but they were never just told to leave without getting paid.
It happens in insurance & finance all the time. In the old days, brokers would burn the midnight oil making copies of client files because they'd know they'd be shown the door by security the day they announced they were leaving.
It happens in insurance & finance all the time. In the old days, brokers would burn the midnight oil making copies of client files because they'd know they'd be shown the door by security the day they announced they were leaving.
I'm sure it does happen. But clearly is doesn't happen at all companies. This shouldn't be a mystery though. Unless no one has given notice ever you pretty much know what is going to happen. If I saw Joe, Bob and Linda all escorted off the premises the day they gave their two weeks notice I most likely would not give two weeks notice. On the other hand if you saw them working out their notice period that is probably what you should expect.
I guess anyone that gives a 2 week notice is a dummy after reading this. It might cost the poster $43,800 under the maximum benefit paid in NJ. 73 weeks times 600 bucks. Ouch, so much for being a nice guy.
I guess anyone that gives a 2 week notice is a dummy after reading this. It might cost the poster $43,800 under the maximum benefit paid in NJ. 73 weeks times 600 bucks. Ouch, so much for being a nice guy.
How would it have been different if he hadn't? He left his last day of work after the 2 weeks notice, went to start his new job and they told him they changed their minds. If he hadn't given notice, he still would have walked out of his job that day, and still found out the new job didn't want to hire him. The only difference is he would have 2 weeks less pay right now, and a poor reference.
I don't understand the mindset that people are "dummies" if they don't base their future decisions on the limited details of what happened to one anonymous person on the internet.
IMO the lesson here isn't "don't give notice" it's "make sure you really have the new job before leaving the first job"
IMO the lesson here isn't "don't give notice" it's "make sure you really have the new job before leaving the first job"
The problem is that it's virtually impossible to make sure you have the new job because of the EMPLOYMENT AT WILL legalese. A written offer letter is no guarantee (and I'm pretty sure there will be verbiage in there about EMPLOYMENT AT WILL, even if it's in the fine print). Basically, they can drop you like a hot potato at any point during the transition period and the law will be on the employer's side.
But I'm with you about giving notice anyway. I believe in being a decent human being and giving proper notice (even if the system is rigged to not be in your favor no matter how much integrity & loyalty you show). I've given 2 weeks notice and helped train my replacement if only because I was friendly with my coworkers and didn't want to leave them in the lurch.
He should of taken a week of vacation, went to the new job and seen if he indeed had one and if he liked it. We can say if, should, may, might, did, didn't, etc all day. Bottom line is he got screwed.
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