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Old 03-08-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Winslow is a tea party compared to real poverty and blight of industrial era east coast cities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_moWtWz4MNg

Small town that basically died because of I-40 superseding Rt 66, typical desert southwest town that was dependent upon transportation, the same way Camden was on industry. Not so much dangerous as just empty and depressed.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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I did a Google street view of the areas that were mentioned in an earlier post. Apparently Camden has a lot of phone problems. There are Verizon trucks all over the place. Gotta feel bad for those guys. I remember a year or two ago a Verizon worker was robbed while on the job in Irvington. I know I couldn't handle working in those conditions.
A guy I work with used to be a Comcast tech and worked in Camden. A lot of the guy's he worked with refused to go there, but he was willing to do it and has plenty of interesting stories. When he would pull up on the street he would look for the guy that "ran the block" who was easy to pick out because he was the one everyone else looked at when he pulled up. He'd let him know what he was there to do and if it was OK for him to do it. With that guys approval he never had a problem and never had his truck touched. Occasionally he would be told "it's not a good time, come back tomorrow" and he would just pack up and head to the next job.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Winslow is a tea party compared to real poverty and blight of industrial era east coast cities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_moWtWz4MNg

Small town that basically died because of I-40 superseding Rt 66, typical desert southwest town that was dependent upon transportation, the same way Camden was on industry. Not so much dangerous as just empty and depressed.
I know the history, I just really, really didn't like it. We did a drive from San Diego to Lake Havasu last summer and we saw many towns suffering the same fate. There's something eerie and sad to it. Or maybe I just like grit better.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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I know the history, I just really, really didn't like it. We did a drive from San Diego to Lake Havasu last summer and we saw many towns suffering the same fate. There's something eerie and sad to it. Or maybe I just like grit better.
Oh I am sure you did. Towns nestled along major transportation corridors in the southwest are going to suffer that fate.

Depending on your choice (I-8, or I-10) you saw, off the top of my mind, wonderful places such as Brawley, Indio, El (Hell) Centro, which actually has about 30,000 people in it, Quartzite, Parker, and IMO, the crown jewel, Blythe California.

The commonality with all these places is transiency. No one is really from these places, they just drift there, pop down temporary quarters, and are off again. In contrast, Camden, Paterson, Baltimore, Philadelphia, these places have generational roots, and a sustained history of tangible, brick and mortar economies. The SW places share in common people who 'winter', surrounded by $8.50 an hour service level employees that work the hotels and fast food restaurants that dot the exit ramps to lure in motorists who just can't drive any further or hold their bladder.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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So, basically this...
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Hollywood Fl, Maplewood Nj
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here's the "center" of town where all the "take it easy" crap goes down. it actually looks not bad, but go one block in either direction..yikes.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=35.02...73.35,,0,21.02

You see I actually like that look, its a shame to hear its really that bad...
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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But here is the question. Why else would you mention that other than to make a racially charged argument? It is like you are trying to say "the solution is to kill all of the Blacks and Hispanics out".
Well, then in that case I would have to kill myself since I was born and raised in Latin America....So, how about dropping off those assumptions and race pimping for a second....?

In reassuming the exchange of ideas with NJGoat and yourself, I'm very aware of something that kinda gets lost in translation. And that is culture and not race. I find it very interesting and I feel that a lot of people don't quite understand the difference between the two. To give you an example, I will mention education. Hispanics do not give education the priority that it deserves because of a cultural/collective mindset that hinders progress. That is just one of many....
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Default Camden Stories

I took an interview once at the local Camden hospital that was surrounded with a chain link fence topped with razor wire. I was early so I went to the cafe to get a coffee to wait. While there, a guy in a bathrobe was pulled out backwards as he didn't have a patient badge. Traveling out, got turned around and just started to drive towards the Philly skyline and the bridge I came across. No street signs anywhere until I came to "Boys to Men" Blvd which wasn't on my map. Couldn't figure out why Philly was booming and Camden was dead dead dead.
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Tonight's Rock Center with Brian Williams has a segment on Camden, "America's Poorest City". It's on NBC at 10pm.
Thanks for the tip.....I'll be in the lookout for the show.
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: NJ
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You see I actually like that look, its a shame to hear its really that bad...
Believe me when I tell you that's a very flattering picture. It was horrible, IMHO. As Mike said, not in a Camden kind of way, but in a very sad way. And the weather was horrendous!
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