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Old 12-28-2013, 10:45 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Booker has some work to do.
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:03 PM
 
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Booker has some work to do.
Former Newark mayor Booker is now the junior senator from New Jersey; please keep up.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Former Newark mayor Booker is now the junior senator from New Jersey; please keep up.
Sp pretty much same ole, same ole.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default Newark is a safe place! we have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation

Wonder no more!

“Today, HSI and our law enforcement partners have struck a serious blow to the core of this gang organization,” Andrew McLees, special agent in charge of ICE, Homeland Security Investigations (ICE-HSI) Newark, said. “MS-13 gang members and their associates are serious career criminals who have a callous disregard for human life. HSI is determined to remove the MS-13 menace from New Jersey’s communities.”

If you put a push pin in the map of NJ every time there was an act of violence involving a firearm you would find the pins are clustered. that would be a clue as to how to shape future legislation to reduce or eliminate violence in NJ. It would certainly demonstrate the ineffectiveness of current and proposed restrictive firearm legislation. What it does demonstrate is the stupidity of the citizens to accept and endorse feel good laws aimed at marketing career politicians' future personal financial security.

Gun violence is downstream of gangs and drugs. Be sure to thank you good buddies who buy illegal drugs for the violence they enable.

Sure let's pass more administrative firearm laws to muddle the rules and make everyone who wants to obey the law run scared and toss otherwise law abiding citizens in jail.

Newark has been under dem control since the 40s. How is that working out for you?


"Newark, New Jersey has one of the highest homicide rates in the US. In 2012 there were 92 murders in Newark with a rate of 33.1 murders for every 100,000 citizens, making it tied with Oakland for 7th deadliest city in America. The city has 272,710 and covers an area of 26 square miles. The number of murder increased from 2011 to 2012 but the murder rate has remained the same."

"Since the 1980s there have been many gangs to emerge in Newark. The following list reflects the names of the gangs that have appeared in Newark and do not necessarily reflect the current gang situation in Newark."
  1. 4 Corner Gangster Bloods
  2. 59 Brims
  3. 93 Bloods
  4. 135 Pirus
  5. 464 Pirus
  6. Avalon Gangster Crips
  7. Blood Stone Villains
  8. Bounty Hunters
  9. Broadway Gangster Crips, 52
  10. Brick City Brims
  11. Crenshaw Mafia Gangster Bloods
  12. Domincans Dont Play
  13. East Coast Crips
  14. Eight Tray Gangster Crips
  15. Elm Street
  16. Gangster Killer Bloods
  17. Grape Street Watts Crip
  18. Home Boy Crimino 211 Gang
  19. Hoover Gangster Crips, 52
  20. Hoover Crip Gang, 74
  21. Hoover Crip Gang, 112
  22. Hoover Crip Gang, 83
  23. Hurtsville Piru
  24. Ivory Hill
  25. Kitchen Crips
  26. Lil Blue Devils
  27. Mad Stones Bloods
  28. Main Street Mafia Crips, 98
  29. Mara Salvatrucha 13
  30. MOB Piru
  31. No Limit Soldiers
  32. Original Gangster Crips
  33. Play Boy Gangster Crips
  34. Raymond Aves Crips
  35. Red Dogs
  36. Rollin 20s Outlaws
  37. Rollin 30s Original Harlem Godfather Crips
  38. Rollin 40s Neighborhood Crips
  39. Rollin 60s Neighborhood Crips
  40. Sex Money Murder
  41. School Yard Crips
  42. Trinitarios "

"Newark, Essex County


Overview

Gangs:score 9 worse than 98% of all municipalities
School Incidents:noof municipalities reporting gang activity
Homicides:score 15 worse than 93% of municipalities
reporting gang activityCrime Conflict Score:worse than 96% of municipalities
reporting gang activity
Most Recruiting Gang:Bloods
Most Problematic Gang:BloodsGangs


The following street gangs are found here:

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Old 12-30-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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If you put a push pin in the map of NJ every time there was an act of violence involving a firearm you would find the pins are clustered.
So why should 6 or 7 million New Jerseyans be issued carry permits, when the clustered inner-city violence will never affect them?
NJ residents can already possess handguns inside their homes & businesses. They don't need to be driving around with pistols in their laps.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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So why should 6 or 7 million New Jerseyans be issued carry permits, when the clustered inner-city violence will never affect them?
NJ has an effective public transit system for bringing the gang members to YOU.
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:34 PM
 
Location: The Garden State
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Who ever would have figured that Ocean County would have more drug related deaths than Newark has homicides.

Both are sad statistics.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:40 PM
 
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So why should 6 or 7 million New Jerseyans be issued carry permits, when the clustered inner-city violence will never affect them?
NJ residents can already possess handguns inside their homes & businesses. They don't need to be driving around with pistols in their laps.
Typical response. You must not get out much or just live in lala land? Are you blind to crimes that happen OUT of Newark ? The overflow from Newark to its neighboring towns are suffering because of our weak justice system . I work in a town very close to Newark and deal with a lot of customers that are from Newark , Irvington , East Orange ...

You dont hear much on the news but in the same parking lot i work in , a man was held at gun point in the face in broad daylight and was forced out of his car to have his car stolen.

Gang related murder in an apt complex

Thefts almost every day from cars to car headlights, to muggings at night. So yeah keep thinking the inner city crime wont effect anyone else.

Who are you to dictate what a person needs and doesnt?

What people need is a real justice system that actually puts fear into criminals and make them change their ways and not come back to jail , or when you murder someone not be out in 15-25 years... There needs to be sever consequences , you do the crime then you need to do the time.

Look how great Camden is , the Mayor is or was as big of a joke as the city is. Probably more crooked and filthy then the gangs there...
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:53 PM
 
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in the same parking lot i work in , a man was held at gun point in the face in broad daylight and was forced out of his car to have his car stolen.
New Jersey Statutes - Title 2C The New Jersey Code of Criminal Justice - 2C:39-6 Exemptions. - New Jersey Attorney Resources - New Jersey Laws
"e. Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm ... For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location."
So, it looks like you can possess a gun at your place of business in NJ. Feel free to blast the next carjacker in your parking lot. Try not to shoot the victim, though.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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Typical response. You must not get out much or just live in lala land? Are you blind to crimes that happen OUT of Newark ? The overflow from Newark to its neighboring towns are suffering because of our weak justice system . I work in a town very close to Newark and deal with a lot of customers that are from Newark , Irvington , East Orange ...

You dont hear much on the news but in the same parking lot i work in , a man was held at gun point in the face in broad daylight and was forced out of his car to have his car stolen.

Gang related murder in an apt complex

Thefts almost every day from cars to car headlights, to muggings at night. So yeah keep thinking the inner city crime wont effect anyone else.

Who are you to dictate what a person needs and doesnt?

What people need is a real justice system that actually puts fear into criminals and make them change their ways and not come back to jail , or when you murder someone not be out in 15-25 years... There needs to be sever consequences , you do the crime then you need to do the time.

Look how great Camden is , the Mayor is or was as big of a joke as the city is. Probably more crooked and filthy then the gangs there...
Im curious what this means? I suspect that wont prevent people from committing crimes who don't care about going to jail or who know they have no chance to have a life other than one as a criminal. It will however cost a TON of money to incarcerate these people with stiffer sentences. I think prevention and rehabilitation would be better served for all involved.
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