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Old 01-16-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Employees at West Caldwell pizzeria robbed, carjacked while leaving work | NJ.com
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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Don't store owners usually have guns to protect their business properties from robberies. If not, a change in self defense law is needed immediately. Self defense is a right, not a privilege. Even in primitive communist controlled corrupted hell called India which I thankfully ran away from, shop owners were allowed to possess weapons to defend themselves against criminals and often used them to prevent robberies.

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Old 01-16-2014, 05:50 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Don't store owners usually have guns to protect their business properties from robberies. If not, a change in self defense law is needed immediately. Self defense is a right, not a privilege. Even in primitive communist controlled corrupted hell called India which I thankfully ran away from, shop owners were allowed to possess weapons to defend themselves against criminals and often used them to prevent robberies.
Civilians can get guns for protection in NJ. There is no law against it, you simply have to follow the application and registration steps.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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Just saw an interview on WCBS news with the victim and have to say cannot understand how this happened so easily.

The parking lot for the pizzeria is surrounded by homes/apartments on either side as is the rear (back yards of homes around the block), and there are apartments across the street. That plus the place is on a busy street. It must have taken place in the dead of night and or an equally deserted time period. I mean the filth had time to order both men to lie face down, tie them up, and pistol whip at least one victim. All this whilst demanding car keys, wallets, cell phones, etc...

That settles it, think is time to start driving Kia or maybe a Fiat 500 when in NJ, as it seems open season on anything else.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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Civilians can get guns for protection in NJ. There is no law against it, you simply have to follow the application and registration steps.
Lol you think it's that easy huh? I have my gun permit but the laws here in NJ are out of control. Just ask the judges that deny everyone to carry because for some reason the judge knows best for everyone.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:48 PM
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Location: New Jersey
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Criminals in NJ know that citizens cannot defend themselves and they know that, even if caught, the penalties for even violent crime are very light.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:48 PM
 
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Civilians can get guns for protection in NJ. There is no law against it, you simply have to follow the application and registration steps.
Ha ha. You need to get like 3 character references who live in state and are willing to sign off, and if you want to actually carry the thing, forget about it.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:27 PM
 
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That settles it, think is time to start driving Kia or maybe a Fiat 500 when in NJ, as it seems open season on anything else.
I always think, why draw attention to yourself? It does nothing but invite trouble.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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My wife's car is missing a wheel cover and she wants to replace it. I said why, it doesn't make any difference. She said it looks ghetto, I told her that will just help her avoid carjackings.
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Old 01-17-2014, 05:16 AM
 
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Getting a concealed carry permit in NJ is basically impossible unless you are retired law enforcement or you do armed private security for a living.

In this fine state we have no right to defend ourselves outside of our home, other than being permitted to carry 3/4 ounces or less of pepper spray. We just have to right to be helpless victims here. As stated above, criminals don't have to worry about encountering armed citizens in the streets. Combine that with our revolving door justice system and you have situations like this.

Just another reason Im looking to leave NJ.
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