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Old 05-05-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Where Sunday shopping is banned in the USA
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No thanks. I like being able to visit more states in shorter amount of time
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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the biggest issue is that nj doesn't have a large and proud city of it's own (ct as well). All of the cities have been in decay for many years (newark, camden, patterson, atlantic city) and we rely on nyc and philly for our own identity.
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania & New Jersey
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My counter-post from years past:
Does New Jersey have a future?
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Old 05-06-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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Philly is down enough on itself without being part of NJ. If NJ wants a decent city we should build one. Maybe we should do like Bloomberg and give unwanted residents one- way bus tickets to elsewhere.
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Philly is down enough on itself without being part of NJ. If NJ wants a decent city we should build one. Maybe we should do like Bloomberg and give unwanted residents one- way bus tickets to elsewhere.
that was Rudy
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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The biggest issue is that NJ doesn't have a large and proud city of it's own (CT as well). All of the cities have been in decay for many years (Newark, Camden, Patterson, Atlantic City) and we rely on NYC and Philly for our own identity.
why is not having a "large and proud city" a big issue? PA has philly, but it's hardly something most of PA residents are proud of. Pittsburgh is recovering, and I love it there, but a lot of people don't. Lots of states don't have one large city that they associate with.
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania & New Jersey
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Default Metropolis, New Jersey

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The biggest issue is that NJ doesn't have a large and proud city of it's own (CT as well). All of the cities have been in decay for many years (Newark, Camden, Patterson, Atlantic City) and we rely on NYC and Philly for our own identity.
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why is not having a "large and proud city" a big issue? PA has philly, but it's hardly something most of PA residents are proud of. Pittsburgh is recovering, and I love it there, but a lot of people don't. Lots of states don't have one large city that they associate with.
We already have a very large city... it's just that political machines prevent it from being recognized because it is in the best interest of the politicians not to. It goes unrecognized because political subdivisions and keeping power are higher values.

More than 4.6 million people live in the eight counties of Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Middlesex, Union, Passaic, Morris, and Somerset combined. That's a large 'city' everywhere except political-land. Currently, 9 of New Jersey's 11 largest cities are in this Metropolis. Should they be one?

How big would this city be? This population would make it the second largest city in the USA!

Call it what you want... use the established 'Jersey City'. How about 'Metropolis'? Or use my personal favorite: 'Liberty City'. Any of the three would make a name to be proud of.
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:28 PM
 
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More than 4.6 million people live in the eight counties of Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Middlesex, Union, Passaic, Morris, and Somerset combined. That's a large 'city' everywhere except political-land. Currently, 9 of New Jersey's 11 largest cities are in this Metropolis. Should they be one?

How big would this city be? This population would make it the second largest city in the USA!
As Lincoln noted, you can call a tail a leg but that don't make it so. What does someone in Western Morris county have to do with a Gutenberg resident?
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I do not like how New Jersey is the 4th smallest state in the US.
you ever think of moving to a bigger state?
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Old 05-06-2014, 03:45 PM
 
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We already have a very large city... it's just that political machines prevent it from being recognized because it is in the best interest of the politicians not to. It goes unrecognized because political subdivisions and keeping power are higher values.

More than 4.6 million people live in the eight counties of Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Middlesex, Union, Passaic, Morris, and Somerset combined. That's a large 'city' everywhere except political-land. Currently, 9 of New Jersey's 11 largest cities are in this Metropolis. Should they be one?

How big would this city be? This population would make it the second largest city in the USA!

Call it what you want... use the established 'Jersey City'. How about 'Metropolis'? Or use my personal favorite: 'Liberty City'. Any of the three would make a name to be proud of.
I can name that ill-defined, mess of a city in 2 words...Los Angeles!
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