Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Basically, instead of saying that you have 12 eggs, you now will call it a dozen(!!). By combining these towns/cities, does it really make it into a "major city"? Would it really make anything better or more attractive?
Well, an expanded tax base would certainly help the major cities. No one really thinks borough-itis has been a positive for the state, and a consolidation of administration and services would be good. Also, having so many separate towns distracts folks from the big picture because they're so focused on what's going on within their borders. Yes, most of the towns around in Newark are already integrated into an urban system with the city, but a wholesale incorporation would give the whole structure a bit more cache, in my opinion.
Newark could at the very least integrate with the surrounding towns, Kearny, Harrison, Hillside, Irvington, Maplewood, the Oranges, Bloomfield, and Bellville are all so close and connected that they might as well be part of the city.
don't people move to the surrounding towns because they don't want to live in the city? expanding the city to include those towns cant be good for those people. they would then have to move further out or suffer the consequences of being a part of Newark.
Well, an expanded tax base would certainly help the major cities. No one really thinks borough-itis has been a positive for the state, and a consolidation of administration and services would be good. Also, having so many separate towns distracts folks from the big picture because they're so focused on what's going on within their borders. Yes, most of the towns around in Newark are already integrated into an urban system with the city, but a wholesale incorporation would give the whole structure a bit more cache, in my opinion.
ah, more tax $$$ for the major cities. And what's in it for, say, Maplewood?
Newark could at the very least integrate with the surrounding towns, Kearny, Harrison, Hillside, Irvington, Maplewood, the Oranges, Bloomfield, and Bellville are all so close and connected that they might as well be part of the city. Jersey City could also incorporate with everything from Bayonne up to Fort Lee. That, coupled with migration back to urban cores, would give NJ two major cities. Weather further combining JC and Newark together would make sense...I'm not sure.
Here we go again. Essex County consolidation has been pushed on and off (mainly by Newark) for over 100 years. Only problem is there's no benefit to it except to Newark. At one point the Oranges considered a defensive consolidation to avoid annexation to Newark.
Hudson County consolidation has a similar long history, though it was partially successful.
And to address the captain's ha-ha only serious point, I assure you that the black residents of the wealthier parts of Essex would be among the strongest opponents of becoming part of Newark. Where do you think many of them came from?
Basically, instead of saying that you have 12 eggs, you now will call it a dozen(!!). By combining these towns/cities, does it really make it into a "major city"? Would it really make anything better or more attractive?
Amalgamation helped Toronto become more attractive. Cities down south like Charlotte partially attribute their growth from learning from the mistakes of northern cities like Newark
Obviously many people (especially in NJ) won't like it but bourghitis did more harm than good for NJ
So NJ doesn't have any big cities WHO THE HELL CARES! We have towns and let me tell you all. I have been to the top 10 most popular states in America (and then some) and guess what. NJ has the nicest towns in America hands down!
NJ doesn't have any interesting towns or cities. Sorry. Sure the towns are nice, they are far from any conversation centerpiece.
Plus, nobody likes when someone from Jersey goes on and on about growing up in quaint "small town" because why? THERE IS NO IDENTITY! One can sound like a savant when they go on about growing up in NJ.
At the end of the day, it's about LARGE CITIES. As I said, CT is in the same boat as well. At least MA has BOS and they are roughly the same size at NJ.
You want consolidation so you can have a conversation centerpiece? That's one of the dumber reasons I've ever heard!
I never said I wanted consolidation. Look who's the dummy now?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
