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Old 08-19-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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Not any more, at least on the strip. Food is now quite expensive.

Vegas got away from the model of give away everything else to get bodies in the casinos at least a decade ago. Now every department is expected to be profitable.

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Not to mention that they almost give away the meals in Las Vegas, while the prices of meals in Atlantic City are comparable to those in NYC.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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Atlantic City residents allowed legalized gambling to benefit the city, not to demolish the entire city. The Residents never would have allowed casinos to level there homes and push them out of the city. If the casinos were built in an area that wasn't already developed it could have expand into an adult Disney land resort, but it wasn't.

To be fair, Atlantic City did try to develop some family attractions. It built a baseball stadium for a minor league baseball team, and it had a ice hockey team. Neither of which lasted more than a few years, because the interest just wasn't there. I wager if an indoor/outdoor water park, ski slope, more amusement park rides they would all be bust by now. If the half empty pier mall proves anything, just because you build it, doesn't mean they will come. Over capacity was Atlantic Cities downfall, most local government limit the number of liquor licenses allowed to be sold, Atlantic City should have did the same. If the number of casinos was capped at 10 max, and no new casinos could be built without obtaining the license from an older casino it wouldn't have the over developed as it is now.

So what's the future hold? I doubt the casino hotels will remain empty for long. Someone will buy them at a steep discount (without a casino operating in them) and offer hotel rooms at cut-throat prices to fill them, which in turn will force other casinos to cut there hotel rates to compete.
Because by & large with maybe the exception of downtown JC & Newark, the vast majority of NJ residents wrote off the cities after the late 60s riots.

The one glimmer of hope is that young people around the US are reversing the trend of their parents & grandparents and.moving back to urban areas. It may bode well for some NJ cities. Williamsburg was a forgotten dump 20 yrs ago and now they charge Manhattan rents.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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I didn't actually mean a mall with retail stores. I was talking about just the indoor amusement parks which both malls have. I believe Atlantic City would have been much better off today if it had spent that 2 billion plus dollars building an indoor all year road amusement/water park and maybe aquarium to at least attract families than building another casino. That would at least be something that PA and CT casino's do not offer. Furthermore, they could have at least cleaned up many of the shops on the boardwalk especially those selling drug paraphernalia and the like.
In my opinion, forgetting how it was actually managed, AC has potential. It could've attracted both beach goers and gamblers, providing fun outdoor activities during the day and gambling/night life during the day. And it is theoretically accessible both from NYC/Northern NJ and from Philadelphia/Baltimore.
I think other than mismanagement, transportation is the biggest problem. It has no direct rail link from the North and driving there through most of congested NJ is not a lot of fun. That is why I have actually never been there.
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Old 08-19-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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In my opinion, forgetting how it was actually managed, AC has potential. It could've attracted both beach goers and gamblers, providing fun outdoor activities during the day and gambling/night life during the day. And it is theoretically accessible both from NYC/Northern NJ and from Philadelphia/Baltimore.
I think other than mismanagement, transportation is the biggest problem. It has no direct rail link from the North and driving there through most of congested NJ is not a lot of fun. That is why I have actually never been there.


I agree with you that AC has a lot of potential, but it's potential as a gambling destination went down the drain when every municipality along the East Coast decided to allow gambling. I saw this coming and have been quite unhappy to see gambling spread, as well as the downfall of another American city that seemed to be on an upswing since they legalized gambling there in 1978. It is quite sad to me as one whose parents always took me to the Jersey Shore while I was growing up.

A few years ago, they began a train service from NYC's Penn Station to Atlantic City. I believe it was infrequent service with upgraded rail cars, in an attempted revival of vacation train service to the Shore, as it was in decades past. I do not know how successful it was or if it still runs. There has always been train service from Philadelphia.

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Old 08-20-2014, 12:11 AM
 
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A few years ago, they began a train service from NYC's Penn Station to Atlantic City. I believe it was infrequent service with upgraded rail cars, in an attempted revival of vacation train service to the Shore, as it was in decades past. I do not know how successful it was or if it still runs.
Amtrak service failed.
Atlantic City Express Service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Service ... ended September 18, 2011

Revel money missing after falling off armored truck's roof - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Breaking News
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